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Looks like Jefferson Missing Edge lettering has become a reality
notwilight
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I've hear rumors that several hundred up to 1000 have been found. Looks like they've made their way to PCGS as they have added the Jefferson Missing Edge lettering to the registry set. They don't do that until they've graded some large number of them. Anybody know what that number is? Anybody seen any in the shared listings?
This is good news for those trying to put together a complete missing edge lettering set.
--jerry
This is good news for those trying to put together a complete missing edge lettering set.
--jerry
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So, let the search continue for the remaining ???? yet unfound Jeff MEL coins out there. The only question in my mind today is whether the Adams MEL will end up with a fewer # of coins known than Jefferson MEL or vice versa? Hard for me to determine at this point.
Anyone else have any information on these MEL Jeffersons?
Wondercoin
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
San Diego, CA
Wondercoin
<< <i>The buyer of the current Ebay auction won't be happy. >>
He's screwed, blued and tatooed, so to speak!!! Bet the sale is never completed.
<< <i>It's only a 65 fir ////44K >>
Even at MS65 it looks like crap...
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<< <i>The buyer of the current Ebay auction won't be happy. >>
He's screwed, blued and tatooed, so to speak!!! Bet the sale is never completed. >>
Hope not. I sent the seller a note asking if he was just going to let the auction end knowing that there are many more than his auction/article implies. No reply. Maybe the $4k bid is "scumnuker!!"
<< <i>I saw that it said Denver, wonder if it states that on the slab............... >>
Hey, yeah! What's up with no slab pictures? Sounds like an ebay violation
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>It's only a 65 fir ////44K >>
Sorry, trying to type and talk on the phone at the same time. got word from another source verifying that there are many of these at PCGS. It should say "It's only a 65 for $4k!!!"
I heard also that there are more rimless coming from two different sources.
Gardnerville, NV
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San Diego, CA
<< <i>Well, I was right he is not happy. >>
Seems happy to me--happy to know the truth. --Jerry
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<< <i>Well, I was right he is not happy. >>
Seems happy to me--happy to know the truth. --Jerry >>
I still would not classify that as happy.
San Diego, CA
<< <i>Anyone that would spend that much money on a coin without knowing it's true rarirty has more money than brains. >>
Not necessarily. In this case we've gone months before any smoothies were found. he had an article by a guy who calls himself and expert and NN apparently believes enough to put him on the front page saying it was a unique coin. If it indeed had remained unique or top pop, it would be a 5 digit coin.
I'll remind you guys: I sold the first GW67 on ebay. It went for $630. We all thought more would be coming. Many a comment was made here about how crazy the buyer was. When more didn't get graded 67, my buyer flipped it for $3900. Now it's a $6-7k coin. --jerry
that's why we follow the news on this
FORUM.
Camelot
And now the Jeffeson?
The name is LEE!
Variety sets will have a Major Variety & Complete Variety Set.
Of course the usual First Day Issue Versions of the Major and Complete variety set as well.
Easiest sets are going to be the basic sets without varieties.
It is getting crazy...And I am following it very closely.
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Wondercoin
<< <i>That coin is ugly.
I heard also that there are more rimless coming from two different sources. >>
The seller also has this SMOOTH EDGE for only $24.95.
Rare S M Q Q T H edge
So if you missed out... Jump on this one
<< <i>i just cannot get excited over this stuff. thanks for sharing tho. >>
See my previous post for your excitement
don't need my coffee this morning!
Wondercoin
<< <i>Weinberg disclosed only that the hoard represents "several hundred" Jefferson, Plain Edge dollars obtained from a source in the Midwest. He did not specify the exact location of the hoard or the exact number of coins it contained. >>
But, as my investigation continues this weekend, I am informed and believe MANY coins have already been graded by the service(s) - and as I mentioned earlier, these coins come very nice. Expect many MEL Jeffersons to grade MS66, MS67 and even a possible MS68 or two and expect to hear about them soon!!
Let's see if my information turns out as good as NN or CW information
Wondercoin
I read the description of the auction and all I see is a claim that it's the Discovery Coin. If it is Not the Discovery Coin, then there might be an issue, otherwise I don't see anything misleading. It doesn't say it is the one and only example.
If the bidder paid to much, thems the breaks, you takes your chances.
PCGS Pop Report is this
on the Rimless Jefferson PCGS # 390499
1/64
125/65
132/66
42/67
1/68
Total Graded 301
.... Guess that bid last night for $ 4050.00 for that MS65 one on eBay was a tad high.
Here is the link to the closed eBay auction.
CLick here to see the $ 4050 Dollar Jefferson Smoothie..
The News is the FIRST MS68 Graded Presidential Dollar - Business Strike is a Jefferson Rimless.
There will be more, they missed an entire process which makes marks on the coins.
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2 questions remain for me:
1. What % of the hoard actually went to PCGS and what % was "held back" for the time being (including related question of whether most of the highest quality pieces were in the original submission pile or the hold back pile)?
2. Original question - which will turn out scarcer - Adams MEL or Jeff MEL?
Wondercoin
<< <i>I read the description of the auction and all I see is a claim that it's the Discovery Coin. If it is Not the Discovery Coin, then there might be an issue, otherwise I don't see anything misleading. It doesn't say it is the one and only example. If the bidder paid to much, thems the breaks, you takes your chances. >>
As I read it, and the article, there is a clear implication, even if not stated, that this is a unique coin. But there is a no-questions-asked return policy. I'm sure the buyer will take advantage of it. --Jerry
Discovery Coin.
We don't know yet if the coin is pedigree'd
by PCGS as "Discovery Coin", but I told him
I thought that it shouldn't be a problem to
have PCGS do so, with Ken Potter as the
original submitter of the coin, etc.
At this time, none of my coins are available for sale.
Fred
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
Board member thoughts?
Wondercoin
Box of 20
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Best to leave them unopened? What do you guys think?
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
The name is LEE!
The worm has turned......
Wondercoin
<< <i>Judging from my very first post on this thread (at that time there was one "known" coin being talked about in the trade papers, etc. if I recall correctly) - I guess my contacts proved strong and relaible!
Wondercoin >>
Good thread. I love the series, BUT I cant stand the freakish population of varieties and their resulting freak outs.
Oh well, at least I am not bored.
Appreciate the update.
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