So I don't have a camera. I can no longer sell pcgs coins on ebay?

LincolnsRule · September 30, 2007 7:02AM

They cancelled some (but not all?) of my listings, I guess because I didn't have photos of the pcgs slab.

Bochiman · September 30, 2007 7:04AM

Yeah...just another screwup in their shortsighted attempts to clean up the mess they let occur.

drwstr123 · September 30, 2007 7:07AM

Law of Unintended Consequences.

Russ · September 30, 2007 7:08AM

I'm surprised anybody would list coins without images.

Russ, NCNE

FLBuffaloHunter · September 30, 2007 7:09AM

If you don't/can't take a picture of the front and back of the coin you are selling, you can't list any coins on eBay. Not just PCGS coins.

FLBuffaloHunter · September 30, 2007 7:10AM

<< I'm surprised anybody would list coins without images.

Russ, NCNE >>

I agree, it's not like you are going to get less money for taking a good pictiure of the coin you are selling. Unless there is something wrong with it.

Zoins · September 30, 2007 7:11AM

Why would you sell without photos?

ScarsdaleCoin · September 30, 2007 7:12AM

crazy isnt it... but really leads the way for 1 of the 4 to photo each of there coins for their customers.... what we would call opportunity!!!!

Bochiman · September 30, 2007 7:16AM

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<< I'm surprised anybody would list coins without images.

Russ, NCNE >>

I agree, it's not like you are going to get less money for taking a good pictiure of the coin you are selling. Unless there is something wrong with it. >>

What about unopened boxes of USMint coins????
THere are times to list without pics

Also, take super generic coins....like untoned SAEs in MS69....not a lot that the picture can show you that is different from the rest of the MS69s.

ricko · September 30, 2007 7:16AM

I cannot imagine selling coins without photo's...unless there was a really excellent return policy.. (refund shipping both ways etc...) even then, I would not bid. Cheers, RickO

Bochiman · September 30, 2007 7:16AM

<< Why would you sell without photos? >>

See my post above...unopened boxes from the mint....do I need to get the box xrayed to get a pic of the coin in the box?

Zoins · September 30, 2007 7:17AM

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<< I'm surprised anybody would list coins without images.

Russ, NCNE >>

I agree, it's not like you are going to get less money for taking a good pictiure of the coin you are selling. Unless there is something wrong with it. >>

What about unopened boxes of USMint coins????
THere are times to list without pics

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Granted there are exceptions but the OP is about PCGS slabs.

<< Also, take super generic coins....like untoned SAEs in MS69....not a lot that the picture can show you that is different from the rest of the MS69s. >>

This has been brought up before. It's now a cost of doing business given the scammers.

tydye · September 30, 2007 7:18AM

I remember back in 1998 when I first started listing on ebay - images were rare in any category. I used to have to describe everything in detail as to the items condition.

FLBuffaloHunter · September 30, 2007 7:20AM

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<< I'm surprised anybody would list coins without images.

Russ, NCNE >>

I agree, it's not like you are going to get less money for taking a good pictiure of the coin you are selling. Unless there is something wrong with it. >>

What about unopened boxes of USMint coins????
THere are times to list without pics

Also, take super generic coins....like untoned SAEs in MS69....not a lot that the picture can show you that is different from the rest of the MS69s. >>

In the case of listing a sealed Mint box, that is what you are selling and what adds value to the item but I imagine you are still required to take a picture of the item you are selling. A photo of generic coins can disclose any problems it may have like those pesky milk spots. I for one, would never bid on a coin if I can't see what i am bidding on.

AUandAG · September 30, 2007 7:22AM

Buy a cheap camers such as a rebuilt Fuji Fine Pix 2650 for about $50 and then post a front
and back and you'll be much better off. The camera will pay for itself fairly quickly! Here's an example.
bob

LincolnsRule · September 30, 2007 7:23AM

I have always listed an honest detailed accurate description, and allowed a full return policy. All you can tell from most pictures of coins on ebay, is that it's a coin. The marks, problems often don't show up, and a detailed desciption is much more informative. I've had perfect feedback and have always gotten top dollar. (Occasionally on a high value coin I will borrow a friends camera). It seems to me to be a collossal waste of time to take a photo of every $10-$50 pcgs Lincoln Memorial cent I sell.

FLBuffaloHunter · September 30, 2007 7:26AM

A picture is worth a thousand words.

SeattleSlammer · September 30, 2007 7:27AM

If you're selling a $10 PCGS cent, what was the point of spending more money to slab it?

08HALA20 · September 30, 2007 7:31AM

Here is a response from eBay on my picture concern.

In regards to the new coin listing policy. I have only a
scanner to take images of coins and it doesn;t do a great job on slabs. I
only sell PCGS and NGC coins and it will be difficult to take "clear"
pictures. I hope this doesn't cause any problems. How clear must a
picture be?

Thier response:

Thank you for writing eBay in regard to listing slabbed graded coins on
eBay.

With our new policy being instituted on Oct 1, we will require seller to
show a picture of their graded coins slabbed by approved graded
companies. These images will have to be clear enough to tell what
company has done the grading, and be able to read the writing on the
slab.

Rookie Joe

pharmer · September 30, 2007 7:34AM

So why haven't you bothered to take images before? Don't know how to use a camera? Or how to download to a computer? Or how to upload to a web host? Or how to paste a url into a listing? eBay is a visual medium, used correctly. You're a little young to be resisting change or learning new things.

Type2 · September 30, 2007 7:41AM

WoW, I thought it was you can not put a grad or the typ of holder with out a pic.

LincolnsRule · September 30, 2007 7:43AM

I stand by that a detailed honest description is worth far more than most pictures. It seems like taking photos would take up a whole lot of time. Unfortunately my computer is from 1998 too (just the new ebay sell page takes a while to load). I have $10 pcgs Lincolns to sell because pcgs's standards changed (now I'll get to lose time and money).

AUandAG · September 30, 2007 7:47AM

Try selling them without pics on the pcgs BST board.....that's a no brainer and works well, especially for inexpensive
coins. Just name a fair price and you'll get them all sold.
bob

pharmer · September 30, 2007 7:50AM

"Try selling them without pics on the pcgs BST board.....that's a no brainer"

LindeDad · September 30, 2007 7:59AM

Actully you can still sell them. You just can not put PCGS or a numaric grade in the listing title or use reference to the PCGS price guide in the listing.
With out pictures you are selling RAW coins as far as eBay is concerned. The same is true of those unopend boxes talked about above.

mrearlygold · September 30, 2007 8:06AM

<< I'm surprised anybody would list coins without images.

Russ, NCNE >>

Me too

itsnotjustme · September 30, 2007 8:06AM

Since I had never seen them, I had to look up the e-bay policy. Here it is:

Certified Coins
When listing a certified coin, the coin must be certified by one of the following authorized grading companies:

Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC)
Numismatic Conservation Services (NCS)
Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS)
Independent Coin Grading (ICG)
ANACS
In addition, listings for certified coins:

Must be assigned the appropriate grading attributes in each listing. Sellers must select the appropriate grading attributes within the Sell Your Item form, including "Grading Company," "Grade" and "Serial Number" provided with that grading.
The listing must include an image of the item, showing the coin in its graded holder, front and back.
If the coin listed is not certified by one of the above authorized grading companies, the coin is considered raw/uncertified and is subject to additional requirements for their sale.

Raw and Uncertified Coins
A raw or uncertified coin is defined as any coin not graded by one of the authorized grading companies. Sellers are permitted to list these items on eBay under the following conditions:

A numeric grade is not included in the title of the listing, such as MS-65, VF-25, etc. A numeric grade may only be included in the description of the listing.
The grading company or price guide is not referenced in the title or description.
A dollar value (even if personal opinion) is not included in the title or description.

TomB · September 30, 2007 9:22AM

Scanners work quite well for images of coins in slabs.

roadrunner · September 30, 2007 9:41AM

Many pictures on ebay are worth no more than a few words, never mind a 1,000 words. Reviewed one PCGS MS64 $20 Saint auction and it had no reverse photo and the typical out of focus obv photo that only proved the seller had a Saint.

roadrunner

So I don't have a camera. I can no longer sell pcgs coins on ebay?

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