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What's the deal with these "estate" auctions

These giant, stupendous "estate" auctions come up regularly on ebay. They always have the same kind of stuff, including "dozens" of gold coins and at least one 1000 dollar bill. The winner is usually some low feedback guy, and the hammer price is usually around $50K.

Crazy auction

Does anybody know the story behind these recurring, too-similar-to-be-true, "estate" auctions?

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,096 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sellers with fabricated stories who are trolling for a sucker to overpay for accumulated junk that is packaged as one lot.
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  • "Sellers with fabricated stories who are trolling for a sucker to overpay for accumulated junk that is packaged as one lot."



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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sellers with fabricated stories who are trolling for a sucker to overpay for accumulated junk that is packaged as one lot.

    Sounds like the same thing was happening in the mortgage backed securities market.

    roadrunner
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Tom nailed it. These are nothing more than dealers unloading their accumulated crap. There is no "estate".

    Russ, NCNE
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Listen to the wisdom of TomB.... he nailed it. ... Cheers, RickO
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In the early days of Ebay I fell for one of these... It was only a few thousand dollars, and seemed legit (there were far fewer scams back in '98 than now).

    I got the lot and it was totally misrepresented. Pitched a fit with the seller over email and the phone, and he actually refunded a large chunk of my money in order for me not to report him. Don't think that would ever happen today.

    I learned the true impact of "caveat emptor" from that one experience. Kind of like burning your hand on a hot stove - unless you are stupid, you only do it once image
  • Thanks for the replies...it is as I figured...especially since I have a relative who owns an auction house (small country auction).

    I just wondered, more specifically, about the amazing similarity between the contents of the lots you see in these, auction after auction. I'm gonna guess that a shill bidder "wins" if they don't get bid up high enough by real bidders, and then they wait a month, shift the contents 5%, and try again. Do you think that is the case?


  • << <i>Sellers with fabricated stories who are trolling for a sucker to overpay for accumulated junk that is packaged as one lot.

    Sounds like the same thing was happening in the mortgage backed securities market.

    roadrunner >>



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    but true.


  • << <i>Sellers with fabricated stories who are trolling for a sucker to overpay for accumulated junk that is packaged as one lot. >>



    I also like to see what other items the seller has listed. This quick search can yield a ton of information.

    I always wonder why someone who sells coins individually would sell an entire collection as "unsearched." The answer is simple - it is a scam.
  • If you really want to find estate collections, you need to go to actual estate auctions.

    They are held all the time but it seems most of the low hanging fruit is already gone.

    Sometimes those folks bid crazier than eBayers.
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A million dollars worth for 52 grand.
    That's like shopping at WalMart image

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