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Hello,

I ‘rolled the dice’ a bit on this seller’s auctions, mainly because I could not get the best look
at his coins but, after a few emails, the seller made me feel comfortable so, I went for it...
overall I’m happy with my purchase.

I know I’m being a little hypocritical by posting my own '500x larger than life' images but… eh, what the heck!

Thanks!
Anthony

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  • Do, please let me know what you think… grade, price was good, price was bad, etc.
  • I'd buy that first SLQ all day long at that price.
  • In order:
    Altered Surfacce.
    Cleaned
    Cleaned
    Rim Nick, PVC that may have been cleaned at one time and then redarkened. A little alcohol would answer that question
    Good old fashioned wear VF.
  • Hi,

    Thanks for the input… I do think the middle two may have had some cleaning but., and not to sound ‘defensive’ what's altered surface on the first SLQ?

    Is it because the first SLQ in the photo looks flat and dull? Because in hand it has luster like a modern state quarter... the photo makes it look very dull and flat.

    The second SLQ is also no where near that flat dull either, it too has some luster but, I struggled to capture it in the photo, with or without flash, macro lens, lighting, etc... I just can't get the luster to show up.

    I might try to photograph them again tonight but instead of using a macro, just photograph from a distance and then crop in, I might get a more accurate result that way.

    Pardon my ignorance but.. .what would alcohol do on the Indian Cent?
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The second SLQ looks cleaned to me, look at the gunk still inside the letters on the reverse (the A's and R's).


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    Altered surfaces
    Cleaned
    Cleaned
    XF details, some acetone might remove the grime


  • << <i>Hi,

    Thanks for the input… I do think the middle two may have had some cleaning but., and not to sound ‘defensive’ what's altered surface on the first SLQ?

    Pardon my ignorance but.. .what would alcohol do on the Indian Cent? >>



    None taken. In fact most people don't do as well as you when someone dumps like I did. The first coin: Something about the eveness of the coin bothers me, so my spider senses tend to tell me the coin has been oiled, brushed, something. Alcohol is my perfered method for removing PVC. It is much safer to work with than acetone and even though it takes a few seconds longer or a few tries has ALWAYS done a great job at dissolving PVC. I avoid acetone whenever possible. I would only do that because if you don't do something about the PVC it will continue to eat away at the coin. It is just to keep the coin from getting worse just in case that is PVC.


  • << <i>The first coin: Something about the eveness of the coin bothers me, so my spider senses tend to tell me the coin has been oiled, brushed, something >>



    That still could be the case but, I really need to re-photograph the 1917 V2 tonight. I was rather peeved that I could not get it to look like a silver coin... the photo looks more like a scan of a coin (where the scanner totally looses all the luster) in hand, the coin has a luster typical of an old silver coin.

    I'll re-shoot it tonight without the macro and crop in... in hand it's honestly not that even, flat or dull.

    I'll try to soak the Cent like you suggested to remove the PVC.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please accept the caveat that these are guesstimates based upon the single sets of images provided and that the large size of the images can make flaws appear worse than in-hand.

    The 1917 TII is AU and might be okay. There is absolutely no chance this coin is MS62, as described in the auction, and that misleading description coupled with no stated return policy would have made me run away from this auction. For $15-$20 more you may have been able to pick up an NGC or PCGS slabbed AU, but if this coin's surfaces are problem-free then you did fine. The 1917-S TI looks to be VF25, but also looks to have been cleaned. Again, the same seller overgraded the coin as an EF, which there is no way this coin is EF, and does not provide a stated return policy. This would have kept me away from the coin and the seller. In my opinion, this coin is easy enough to obtain in this grade without the cleaning and was not a good selection. Okay, I guess we are seeing a pattern here in that these are all from the same seller with no stated return policy and they are all wildly overgraded. The 1906 Liberty nickel is AU and might be okay. The price seems to be attractive, which oddly enough makes me suspicious since this seller is not one that I would trust, so I am not feeling well with this piece. The image of the 1908-S IHC is a little tougher to interpret, but I think the coin is a VF30 and not an EF45. This does not surprise me since we already see a pattern with this seller's listings. The price of $77 is fine as long as the gunk is really gunk and as long as the obverse rim is not damaged in the area in front of the portrait.

    Overall, I think you need to support folks who grade honestly and offer a stated return period.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll comment on the Indian........The details grade is an XF-40, based on the separation of the ribbon from the hair. The color looks fine as well. However, this coin has some light corrosion/verdigrees around some of the devices. My guess is that it is corrosion and not PVC . soak the coin in acetone, if it's PVC it should come off, if it's corrosion/verdigree, it won't come off. Based on the corrosion, I would net graded the coin VF-30.

    JJ
    Need a Barber Half with ANACS photo certificate. If you have one for sale please PM me. Current Ebay auctions
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It seems that I missed the 1913-D TII Buffalo. This piece really looks to either have been cleaned or at least wiped and I do not think it was a good buy.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Ok, here's my two cents on your coins.

    1) Questionable surface (maybe ?) AU-55 details
    2) Definitely cleaned at one point, and VF-30 details
    3) AU-53/ 55 (at best)
    4) 40/45 detail (I wouldn't worry about the gunk that much)
    5) wiped, VF-30 details.

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