Mama says drink milk for healthy bones.......

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 8:07AM

She didn't say shat about how it turns gem ASE's into junk.

Funny thing is it only happened to the 96 ASE's, in the NGC slabs. Eagles in PCGS slabs are fine.

2 months ago spotless, today I get milked. I have had these for years, then out of the blue,

the coin God zapped me, ha.

I am no longer collecting any ASE, period, selling everything this fall, over 300 ounces.

The 20th Anniversary sets are going as well, before they are hit with spoiled milk.

If you have ASE's, they will milk eventually. You heard it here first.

Will NGC buy these back for current market value, yeah right.

Say no to milk.

ricko · September 17, 2007 8:16AM

Some never spot..... and others look like a baby barfed on them... I still maintain - and I have posted this in the past, several times, that if a forum member could subject the milk spotted surface to a SEM (scanning electron micrograph), we may be well on our way to solving this issue. I no longer have access to one or I would do it... Cheer, RickO

Coxe · September 17, 2007 8:20AM

Milk spots? No problem. You still have just as much silver there. Such fusses over bullion.

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 8:21AM

Some never spot..... and others look like a baby barfed on them

You just jinxed yourself, you could be the next milk victim

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 8:22AM

Milk spots? No problem. You still have just as much silver there. Such fusses over bullion.

Thats great if silver hits $100 an ounce, these are 96's I'm talking about, they don't sell for melt.

jgrinz · September 17, 2007 8:23AM

Crack it out wax it up and ship it

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 8:24AM

<<Crack it out wax it up and ship it >>

Like Turtle Wax? I was thinking of cracking them out and hitting them with a bathroom steam cleaner. Yes No?

Cgb · September 17, 2007 8:33AM

At least it didn't turn to dust...

Its still 1 oz. of silver right there!

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 8:38AM

<<At least it didn't turn to dust..>>.

I totally understand it's an ounce of silver .999. I understand silver is at $12.73 an ounce.

You can't buy Unc. 96 Eagles anywhere on the planet earth for $12.73 a piece.

unknowncomic · September 17, 2007 8:41AM

I was offered $11.00 ('96 ASE) for mine last thursday. I'm still pi$$ed

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 8:43AM

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I have never seen Unc. rolls for under $1000, anywhere.

Coxe · September 17, 2007 9:07AM

<< <<At least it didn't turn to dust..>>.

I totally understand it's an ounce of silver .999. I understand silver is at $12.73 an ounce.

You can't buy Unc. 96 Eagles anywhere on the planet earth for $12.73 a piece. >>

According to my spreadsheet, I bought 40 at 6.03 a piece. I guess silver has gone up.

MajorDuty · September 17, 2007 9:58AM

Buy only proof SAEs and no worries mate.

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 10:06AM

<<According to my spreadsheet, I bought 40 at 6.03 a piece. I guess silver has gone up. >>

When did you buy 96 ASE's for $6.03 a piece?

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 10:15AM

Will NGC remove the spots? Are the spots removeable?

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 10:20AM

<<Buy only proof SAEs and no worries mate.>>

Not true, plenty of the 2006 RP's have milked. Infact there was a post of 2006 RP70,

that milked in the PCGS plastic. Now that hurts.

Coxe · September 17, 2007 10:23AM

<< <<According to my spreadsheet, I bought 40 at 6.03 a piece. I guess silver has gone up. >>

When did you buy 96 ASE's for $6.03 a piece? >>

3/20/95....making them '95 ASEs; need to correct that. Have to see what the '96s were, but would be whatever the market price was at the time. All UNCs. I bought for the silver.

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 10:31AM

<<3/20/95....making them '95 ASEs; need to correct that. Have to see what the '96s were, but would be whatever the market price was at the time. All UNCs. I bought for the silver.>>

96 ASE's generally sell raw for $35-$50 a piece. Unc rolls $950 - $1100 + or -

NGC MS69 $75- $90 + or -

PCGS MS69 $125- $150 + or -

NumisOxide · September 17, 2007 10:35AM

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 10:38AM

Thankyou coinjp, very thoughtful of you.

Do you own any ASE's?

NumisOxide · September 17, 2007 10:46AM

Not anymore but I had two once which had milk spots.

It's very unappealing.

Preussen · September 17, 2007 10:51AM

<< Milk spots? No problem. You still have just as much silver there. Such fusses over bullion. >>

-Preussen

crito · September 17, 2007 10:53AM

Must be the humidity in Florida where NGC is. The dry heat of California produces far fewer.

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 10:59AM

<< Milk spots? No problem. You still have just as much silver there. Such fusses over bullion. >>

Let me tell you, if it was your 95W Proof Eagle that was milked, YOU would be a fussin and a tussin.

TwoSides2aCoin · September 17, 2007 11:18AM

Got Milk ?

Manorcourtman · September 17, 2007 11:25AM

<< Thankyou coinjp, very thoughtful of you.

Do you own any ASE's? >>

Your Sig line is to big. Please shrink it.

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 11:35AM

My sig line is to big? Get a bigger monitor

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 11:37AM

Is that better? Now go milk that cow, and, and..........

Myqqy · September 17, 2007 12:38PM

I have a hard time grasping the fascination with collecting slabbed ase's, and people that fuss over 69's vs. 70's.... but I understand your pain at finding those milk spots. I got very pissed when a few of my cameo proof franklins spotted up after I stored them in the safety deposit box. Sometimes it's just difficult keeping coins pristine, and think there's some type of spiritual message in that...

DJCoinz · September 17, 2007 12:44PM

<< Buy only proof SAEs and no worries mate. >>

Humph. Tell that to this coin.

Oh, and while you're at it, you may as well tell this one too.

As luck would have it, they're both mine (of course

).

djdilliodon · September 17, 2007 1:00PM

Boy do i feel your pain

One of my PF-70uc 20th ann. spotted, ill be calling NGC first thing tomorrow and getting paid for this coin. Im dumping all my ASE's now before those fall victim. Extra cash for my proof franklin habbit i guess

They do look nice when they arent spotted (on ebay now

).

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 8:15PM

<<One of my PF-70uc 20th ann. spotted, ill be calling NGC first thing tomorrow and getting paid for this coin.>>

Will NGC buy back junk spotted coins? There must be a ton of coins out there with spots.

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 8:28PM

<<Sometimes it's just difficult keeping coins pristine, and think there's some type of spiritual message in that... >>

Thats why I'm giving up on ASE's, and the hobby period, not buying any more. The only bullion I'm buying will be from AMPEX,

in the form of silver and gold bars, the hell with coins. Coins are a waste of time and money they spot, tarnish, tone ugy,

and are susceptible to pop reports. Plus there is the whole submission game with the TPG's. Bullion bars are easier to store, just throw them

in a safe, and forget about them. I guess the only involvement in coins I'll have, is to rip and flip. Even my Dansco 8100 filled with Lincoln

cents, has turned most of them into spotted junk.

jhdfla · September 17, 2007 8:50PM

<< <<Sometimes it's just difficult keeping coins pristine, and think there's some type of spiritual message in that... >>

Thats why I'm giving up on ASE's, and the hobby period, not buying any more. The only bullion I'm buying will be from AMPEX,

in the form of silver and gold bars, the hell with coins. Coins are a waste of time and money they spot, tarnish, tone ugy,

and are susceptible to pop reports. Plus there is the whole submission game with the TPG's. Bullion bars are easier to store, just throw them

in a safe, and forget about them. I guess the only involvement in coins I'll have, is to rip and flip. Even my Dansco 8100 filled with Lincoln

cents, has turned most of them into spotted junk. >>

Buy original toned barbers, seated, etc with an original skin and you can avoid this problem. Just a suggestion and not a slam against anything modern.

John

newbiecollector · September 17, 2007 8:57PM

Sort of like collect or speculate..................... isn't it?

morgansforever · September 17, 2007 9:25PM

<<Buy original toned barbers, seated, etc with an original skin and you can avoid this problem. Just a suggestion and not a slam against anything modern. >>

I will probably keep all my Morgans, Busts, and what seated I have. But no way am I holding anything modern from the Slaughter House.

Namely ASE's, and commems, yes even some of my modern commems have fell victim to milking.

Thanks for the support John,

Scott

TwoSides2aCoin · September 17, 2007 9:33PM

On a serious note... the spots are not good. I empathize. Even Ron Guth one time put the feelers out that if anyone had a suggestion as to how they (milk spots) could/ should be addressed... to let PCGS know.
It sure takes the collectibility out of the picture.

seemyauction · September 17, 2007 10:24PM

So far the only one I have in a slab does not have milk..... its a 2006-W

AL

djdilliodon · September 17, 2007 11:14PM

<< <<One of my PF-70uc 20th ann. spotted, ill be calling NGC first thing tomorrow and getting paid for this coin.>>

Will NGC buy back junk spotted coins? There must be a ton of coins out there with spots. >>

I know of a few that have done it. Im doing it now before they change there mind!

Mama says drink milk for healthy bones.......

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