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RDV-006 (FEP) Photo Thief on EBay

19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
The seller of this auction has stolen a couple of the images within it and is using them illegally. Namely this one:

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which he stole from this Forum thread! He also uses the exact wording I used in describing the FEP from the very same thread. Namely the part about "This particular coin shows almost 7 distinct islands ......" He copied this stuff, word for word from the above thread even to the mispelled words!

I notified EBay but because there is no watermark on the photo, EBay will not do anything!

As a side note, this scumbag also uses photo's from ModernDollarNut's EBay auction located here. Obviously no watermark so no action on EBays part! ModernDollarNut was able to get him to change the text of his auction that he also stole from the auction (where he said he co-authored the July Numismatist article on the FEP!) but unfortunately the change amounted to not stealing from Rob and taking from my description on the Forums!

The only reason I am posting this is because this seller either lurks or is a member of this forum and I want him to know that he posted the wrong picture for the craters! He put the regular craters in his auction and not the FEP craters! I also posted this to let everybody know that this seller probably does not even have an FEP and if you bid, you're probably gonna lose!
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



The name is LEE!

Comments

  • Hi lyds, I may be wrong, but I've got a feeling some clues to this person's identity can be found in what they are selling in their eBay store. Canuck coins, CB, ...?
  • Just sent a question through eBay.



    << <i>If you are going to steal a picture, it would help if the one you stole was actually of what you are trying to sell.

    PS: The discription sounds like I read it before too, was that also stolen?

    Sincerely,
    Tim
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hi lyds, I may be wrong, but I've got a feeling some clues to this person's identity can be found in what they are selling in their eBay store. Canuck coins, CB, ...? >>

    You talkin about this auction for the 2000-P Sacajawea?

    All he talks about is the Cheerios Dollar. When asked if he was auctioning a Cheerios Dollar, he said:

    << <i>PLEASE READ: AS STATED I AM NO EXPERT

    I READ THE INFORMATION BELOW AND THOUGHT IT VERY INTERESTING

    AS, I LOOKED AT THE COIN I AM OFFERING THE TAIL FEATHERS HAVE THE MARKINGS THEY ARE DISCUSSING

    NOW IF IT IS OR NOT, I AM HOPING YOU DECIDE

    THIS IS NOT MY HOBBY, AND IF IT IS, SOMEONE WILL HAVE AN GREAT DEAL !!! >>



    Better beware of this bird.

    As of 8/24/2007 the above referenced listing was pulled.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • See if the knucklehead linked to the photo...If he did, change the photo to something that will get him booted off eBay:-)


  • << <i>See if the knucklehead linked to the photo...If he did, change the photo to something that will get him booted off eBay:-) >>


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    Never teach a pig to sing. You'll waste your time and annoy the pig image

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    I tried that but he grabbed the picture from the forums! image
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • You may be able to delete that photo from your album and switch it with one that you rename to have the same filename as the image he linked to.
    Never teach a pig to sing. You'll waste your time and annoy the pig image

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  • Catch22Catch22 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭
    God, this could be so much fun. Good luck.


    When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.

    Thomas Paine
  • lee what would you have said if he e-mailed and asked to
    use your pic.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    I would have said go for it and even provided the original! I'm all for promoting this coin but the methods being used are not on the up and up!

    This guy originally put his auction up using text and pictures stolen from ModernDollarNut's EBay auction. When Rob called him on it, he dropped the size of Rob's pictures and added my picture and the text from my Forum post!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • GandyjaiGandyjai Posts: 1,380 ✭✭
    I recognized that the pics and descriptions were stolen and asked him 2 questions:

    First, I asked if he those his pics of the coin for sale.
    His response:
    <<yes, close as i could, lights on silver glare with the camera,I posted several other coins also>>

    Then, I asked if he REALLY (yes, I wrote REALLY in all caps) had that coin.
    His response:
    <<Yes, i am holding it
    new condition, still real shiny,
    i am not an collector, but i have some coins i had and forgotten about until today, it does have the lunar image and as pictured
    you probably know more about it than i do>>

    As stated earlier, he WAS also claiming to be the co-author of the July FEP article until GrandAM called him on it and then he
    changed his tune and his auction description.

    He has also "lifted" a Sac pic and description of a pop 1 coin.....but listed it TWICE at two different prices!image

    A total scammer in my book!image
    Ebay won't boot him because they like to collect the fees. Thankfully, no one is falling for them...YET.

    Maybe, by outing him on the Forum we can help discourage him (and others) from trying these blatant scams as well
    as warning other potential victims before they get taken.
    JMHO.

    Brian

    I Love image Variety & Error Ikes! image
  • morganbarbermorganbarber Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭
    I've noticed that many VAM listings show Pictures from VAMWorld and don't make it real clear that the pictures are not of the coin being sold.
    I collect circulated U.S. silver
  • GandyjaiGandyjai Posts: 1,380 ✭✭
    <<I've noticed that many VAM listings show Pictures from VAMWorld and don't make it real clear that the pictures are not of the coin being sold.>>

    I agree....but, they also aren't fraudulently claiming to be the author and photographer of that particular VAMWorld section, like THIS guy
    did when he first listed the coin for sale! He quickly removed that part once he was called to the carpet on that!

    Like I said....this is a scammer in my eyes....others might see it differently and that's OK, it's a free country.
    I just don't want others to be deceived. This type of deception (or scam) is what makes it hard for people to
    trust buying on eBay.
    JMHO

    Brian
  • No kidding it's hard, thank goodness there's you guys.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    IMO this guy has pulled out all the scam stops from the I'm not a collector" bit to the "It looks like it to me but what do I know" routine!

    For him to out and out lie to Brian about the photo's has got to say something with regard to this seller!

    Stay far far away and do not get sucked in!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Man have I got an update!

    Someone is trying to hack my account. Just got this email from Safe Harbor:

    Dear eBay Member,

    Thank you for contacting eBay regarding your account. The following
    information will help you reset a forgotten password and report
    unauthorized use of an eBay account.

    ***Resetting a Forgotten Password***
    1. Click the "Site Map" link located at the top of most eBay pages.
    2. Under the "My Account" heading, click the "Forgot Your Password"
    link.
    3. Enter your User ID, and then click the "Continue" button.
    4. Answer at least two of the questions and then click the "Continue"
    button.
    5. You'll receive an email with instructions about how to create a new
    password for your account. eBay will keep your current (forgotten)
    password active until you respond to the password instruction email.

    ***Important***
    If you verify your identity by entering your ZIP Code or telephone
    number, you'll be asked to enter the ZIP Code or telephone number that
    you used when you first registered on eBay. If your registered email
    address is no longer valid, eBay won't be able to retrieve your
    password. Please register again if that is the case.

    If you don't receive the email with instructions, it's usually because
    your email spam filter has blocked the message. We recommend first
    checking the Bulk folder of your email inbox. If the message doesn't
    appear there, change the settings of your spam filter and then repeat
    the steps listed above. eBay will resend the email with instructions.


    ***Reporting Unauthorized Use of an eBay Account***
    If you think your account may have been accessed or used without your
    permission, please go to the "Securing Your Account and Reporting
    Account Theft" Help page and follow the steps to secure your account :

    http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/isgw-account-theft-reporting.html

    Next, contact us immediately through Live Help by scrolling to the
    bottom of the page and clicking the "Live Help" link. Live Help will
    open in a new window and connect you to an Account Security Live Chat
    representative.

    If you need to report an eBay account other than yours as being stolen,
    please go to:

    http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_us/_base/result_5_2_6.html

    Click "Email us" near the bottom of the page. You'll be able to enter a
    member's user ID and report your specific concerns about that account.


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    I never contacted them with regard to my password....................................I'm thinking ole nativecat is getting a little testy!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • Are you sure it is from eBay or is it a phisher?
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    It was in my EBay messages so I am sure it was from EBay. Unfortunately, I tried to report this but the spoof@ebay.com won't work in this situation.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • Now it is getting scary.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Some more detective work:

    He listed a 1979-D SBA here

    and pulled the pictures from here.

    And yes, this is getting scary.............
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As Brian said the guy orginally claimed to be a CO-AUTHOR and The PHOTOGRAPHER for THE FEP Article that just appeared in The Numismatist. Here is the ASK SELLER A QUESTION that I sent him:

    Dear nativecat1,

    Hello,

    You stated you co-authored the article in The Numismatist,,,, which author are you as I have a copy of the article and would like to check?

    - grandamgtx


    Here is his reply:

    Dear grandamgtx,

    thank you for bringing that to my attention, it was an error on my part


    - nativecat1

    I guess he got confused and thought for awhile that he wrote the article and took all the photos for the FEP Article that appeared in The Numismatist,,,,,, well, that is what was originally said in the eBay auction until he changed it image

    GrandAm image
    GrandAm :)
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who cares, it's just an Ike dollar, anyway.



























    imageimageimage





    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Dear eBay Member >>


    I thought Ebay always used a persons name when they contact you?
    Larry

  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Since this was in my EBay messages, I'm certain it originated from Safe Harbor.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • I just received a warning from EBay via the official channel. It says my user ID and and e-mail address are too similiar and urges me to change my e-mail address. It says I will be subjected to excessive phising. That is true. I am.

    In your case, it may be that somebody merely tried to sign on with your user ID and guessed at your password. Then when it was rejected, they said "I forgot" perhaps hoping to get it from eBay. This resulted in your letter, in case you really had forgotten. But it would appear the system is working.

    In times pass, I have been tricked out of my password more than once. I get a letter with an unfamiliar item number. I try to click on it to see what it is. It asks for my password and I have given it. BUT you never need a password to merely look. Both times, I quickly realized my mistake and changed my password.
  • Did you notice if he is selling the coin for a higher price than what it is listed for in the auction that he is taking the photos from. Maybe he thinks he can flip the coin without ever handling it.
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Difficult to tell from the photos (and I'm definitely NOT and Ike specialist), but is the dollar he's selling even RDV-006 anyway? Looks like a pretty mean eagle to me!

    --Christian
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Four things are without a doubt, absolute certainties..................

    1. The Eagle's head photo is from ModernDollarNut's auction.

    2. The Earth photo is from ModernDollarNut's auction.

    3. The photo of the craters was lifted from these forums on this thread AND it is not a photo of the RDV Craters.

    4. The text:

    "photo is that what apears to be "downward flow" lines extend all the way across
    the crater above the second L in Dollar

    This particular coin shows almost 7 distinct islands off the coast of a Florida that
    has a completely different shape than the regular reverse. It comes to a point and
    almost appears doubled. The eastern seaboard also has a distinctly different shape
    than on a regular reverse.


    ..............was lifted from the same thread as the craters photo and was authored by me. Of all the IKE collectors involved with the research on this variety, I am the only one to ever state that there are 7 islands.

    I have not located where he stole the R picture from nor have I located where he got the Obverse and Reverse photo's from but I am searching.

    Personally, I do not believe for 1 second that he has an actual RDV-006 Friendly Eagle Pattern coin and if anybody bids this auction and wins, if they receive anything at all, it will be a common, circulated 1971 Eisenhower coin. It might not even be a Denver coin as the auction states clearly that

    << <i>I DO NOT PROFESS TO BE A COIN EXPERT. ANY OPINION IS SUBJECTIVE. PLEASE USE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT AS I CAN ONLY LIST COINS, TAKE PICTURES IN BEST POSSIBLE LIGHTING & ITS UP TO YOU TO FORM YOUR OWN OPINION.
    >>

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    If you click "me" and then get redirected to their Myspace page it shows this:

    Female
    51 years old
    BARTOW, Florida
    United States
  • Then there is this auction the thief has up:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/2000-P-SACAGAWEA-DOLLAR-NGC-MS-69-TOP-POP-1-76_W0QQitemZ190143653282QQihZ009QQcategoryZ11983QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    He describes it as a POP 1 NGC holdered Sac but has no picture of the NGC holder.

    I phoned and emailed eBat about this auction 8/22 with no results so far. Rob (doctortrader)

    Modern dollars are like children - before you know it they'll be all grown up.....

    Questions about Ikes? Go to The IKE GROUP WEB SITE
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks like this thief has hooked 2 bidders................

    I'm gonna try to follow up and see if they actually receive an RDV-006 as the more I look at his obv/rev photo's, the less I am convinced this guy has the real thing!

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!

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