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Is this coin worthy of a star * ?

seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
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NGC graded PF67 (no star)

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    No.

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    DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>No.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    The Great and Powerfull "OZ" has spoken ! imageimage




    Perhaps Russ could expound just a bit. image
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    seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>No.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    The Great and Powerfull "OZ" has spoken ! imageimage




    Perhaps Russ could expound just a bit. image >>



    Ditto
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    It's covered in haze.

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    DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    Could be the pics?
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    kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Star, yes, absolutely.
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No. The hazy/cloudy/distracting centers negate the great peripheral color.
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    ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Based on Ngc's standards yes it deserves a star. >>



    What standards? "Superior eye-appeal?" What does that mean exactly?
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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    No, it's not all that attractive of a coin. Way too streaky of a coin.
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    ILikeMercsILikeMercs Posts: 1,392 ✭
    not sure about the * but I don't think it deserves a 67. Kind of a weak strike on the obverse in the face........JMO.
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    fengkfengk Posts: 376
    Nope. At least not with what I see in those pics.
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    seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
    in fairness to the coin it is part of an original set that looks amazing in person.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ugly...no sticker for you.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The picture makes me say 'overgraded'... in hand it may be different.... do not like the toning. Cheers, RickO
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The photos highlight all the negative attributes of the coin. I'm sure it looks a lot more dazzling from different angles. It could well deserve a star, haze and all. Many nicely toned 19th century proofs have some natural haze from the toning process. It's only been in the last 10 years or so where dipped white, and starkly mirrored surfaces without any touch of color (or haze) have become tulips per se. Those are more unnatural looking than haze could ever be.

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    JustBustDimesJustBustDimes Posts: 357
    I'll send you a gpld star to put on the set!

    Really, it is a nice set. At one time I collected all the early proofs toned. It was fun to put together. Sometimes I miss them!
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    WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dip it... imageimage
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Worthy of the grade? Sure. Some may dispute it but I don't have a problem with it.
    Worthy of a *? Nope. The cloudiness/haze that is mentioned.

    Shouldn't matter "what else has a *", should matter on what the * is supposed to mean.

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    IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    I have never seen a darkly toned coin given a star. Even without the dark toning the haze would preclude a star.
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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no
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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry the haze kills the coin, PF67 ???
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    tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    No...but we'll see what those CAC people will have to say.
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    pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    star or no star, thats a sweet merc
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    dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    Yes it certainly does.
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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry, no *. I do like the obverse color but the whole coin is too hazy.
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    before we all start jumping to conclusions as to whether a star designation is appropriate, lets look at the coin in hand firstimage

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    darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭


    << <i>before we all start jumping to conclusions as to whether a star designation is appropriate, lets look at the coin in hand firstimage >>



    I agee! send it to me first to look at. image
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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll send you a gpld star to put on the set!

    Really, it is a nice set. At one time I collected all the early proofs toned. It was fun to put together. Sometimes I miss them! >>

    How much is that sticker? image


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    DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856 ✭
    That's a beautiful coin...it would certainly be deserving of a star if it weren't for the haze. image
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    coinman420coinman420 Posts: 4,666 ✭
    i bet it looks better in hand than those pics
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    seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
    Much, much better in hand
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, I'd 'star' it.

    I think it looks gorgeous.
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    coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>in fairness to the coin it is part of an original set that looks amazing in person.

    image >>








    I agree it should have a star. I think IMO that when you get them graded in a set it hurts the grade. They are not willing to give it a better grade.
    When I submitted my 1953 proof set at one of the shows last year I showed it to one of the graders and he said that my Franklin will get at the min. 66 or 65 cam * It came back 65cam

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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    My take would be no- but I do think it's a cool coin...
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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That proof Merc looks like it would CAM without the haze. If there was a way to remove the haze (or most of it) and preserve the color and original "look", that would be ideal.

    A light dip in Jeweluster (or an NCS "haze removal job) might bring out the CAM contrast, but would likely ruin the color and make the coin look processed.
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    RotatedRainbowsRotatedRainbows Posts: 2,085 ✭✭
    It is impossible to judge the TRUE eye appeal of a coin from a picture and thats what the "*" is all about.
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    djdilliodondjdilliodon Posts: 1,938 ✭✭
    That haze could be caused by over dipping and is not removable. Hard to say though when not in hand.

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