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PCI for Authenticity?
al410
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I am not concerned about there grading, but would you feel comfortable with buying a coin in there holder with it being authentic?
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counterfeit, then I'd pass. If it's not a commonly counterfeited coin then I'd say your are more
than likely getting the real deal. Others might offer the exact opposite thinking as one that is
commonly seen in a counterfeit stage would be easier to detect and less common ones would
be harder to determine.
Oh my, guess that covers it!
bob
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>I'd trust PCGS, NGC or ANACs for authenticity. >>
I'd also trust ICG.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>I'd trust PCGS, NGC or ANACs for authenticity. >>
I'd say ICG, too. J.P. Martin is one of the best there is at authentication.
The rest for the most part are plastic holders.
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<< <i>So as SEGS is considered to be a third tier grading company, it would follow that their authentication is questionable as well? >>
No.
Anyone that critizes this response is challenged to show even one example of a fake in a SEGS slab.
Larry Briggs is one of the most knowledgeable numismatics around.
In addition, Bob and Cindy Grellman attribute the early copper, and are acknowledged professionals in that field.
If you want accurate variety attribution, this is the service to send your coins to.
There are those that feel that SEGS overgrades. This may be so.
Ray
<< <i>If you are looking at one of Ernie's (or ebwcoin) auctions, then I would say it's most likely a genuine coin. >>
Most likely?
<< <i>lathmach-Couldn't agree with your statements more-except for the overgrading part. He's UNDERgraded quite a few of my coins-many have been graded at PCGS at the same grade or better-after cracking them out. I'm sure there would be built-in bias if I tried to cross them. >>
Can't speak to your specific experience, but based on what I've seen and the overall market acceptance of SEGs, I would say your view is very much in the minority.
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<< <i>If you are looking at one of Ernie's (or ebwcoin) auctions, then I would say it's most likely a genuine coin. >>
Most likely? >>
Interesting that this came up. I was considering a Nova in one of his auctions but decided to pass because of its PCI slab. I'm NOT IN ANY WAY questioning this seller's integrity. That I would like to make clear. What held me back was the PCI slab (which was gold bordered) and having dredged up this thread to get some opinions.
<< <i>I'm NOT IN ANY WAY questioning this seller's integrity. >>
Nor was I. I just thought that was a fairly tepid endorsement of a coin's authenticity.
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<< <i>So as SEGS is considered to be a third tier grading company, it would follow that their authentication is questionable as well? >>
I always considered SEGS as second tier. At least they try to get it right.
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<< <i>I always considered SEGS as second tier. At least they try to get it right. >>
Agreed. I consider them to be a "legitimate" service as opposed to one which only exists to give out ultragrades like candy for unscrupulous sellers to peddle to the numismatically ignorant. But in terms of grading and such I think they're a little bit behind the majors but light years ahead of the NTC and SGSs of the world.