Toning over milkspots ?

Sotty · July 25, 2007 10:34AM

I was wondering if you took milkspoted Silver eagles, soaked them in alcohol or acetone then let them out in the air, would the toning cover the milkspots?

dcamp78 · July 25, 2007 1:01PM

I don't believe so...

ricko · July 25, 2007 11:30PM

It seems no one is experimenting with the milk spots... beyond attempts at dipping. I posted in another thread regarding the voluminous posts about milk spots but the lack of investigative efforts into identification and/or root cause of the problem. I would be glad to do some of this, however, none of my SAE's (four sets, circ, uncirc, proofs) have ever developed milk spots. Cheers, RickO

Bochiman · July 26, 2007 2:05AM

Imho, the SAE is already "ruined" with milk spots....would be nice for the one the "doctors" to experiment with the toning process on one....I would like to know/learn from it.
Unfortunately?, I have never doctored a coin and really, aside from what I have heard here about onions, eggs, and ovens, wouldn't know how or else I would do it (also, I don't have any raw, spotted ones, to try with

kwmorgan · July 26, 2007 2:24AM

Dipping doesn't remove the spots. I had my local dealer try it on a milkspotted 1996 ASE. No luck.

CoinHusker · July 26, 2007 3:50AM

Since milkspots are not ON the surface of the coin but IN the surface of the coin, they are not removeable. Toning over them doesn't affect the milkspots and only makes the toning look ugly. Actually, I don't think the spots will tone. It really is like a cancer that destroys everything it touches. That may sound dramatic, but from my experience and IMHO oh so true.

eyoung429 · July 26, 2007 3:53AM

Here is one with milkspots and hard toning: note the milkspot under the "B"

CoinHusker · July 26, 2007 3:56AM

Thanks for the picture. That's what I was trying to describe. Milkspots won't tone and only make the toning less attractive.

SpaceMonkey · July 26, 2007 4:07AM

<< <i>Since milkspots are not ON the surface of the coin but IN the surface of the coin, they are not removeable. Toning over them doesn't affect the milkspots and only makes the toning look ugly. Actually, I don't think the spots will tone. It really is like a cancer that destroys everything it touches. That may sound dramatic, but from my experience and IMHO oh so true.

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so maybe they have it all wrong?! seems like they should make the whole coin a giant milk spot and that way it will never tone?

57loaded · July 26, 2007 4:15AM

no,

but if you do an acetone bath, then put it in dip for a while you may develope some rainbow toning like the above. but the milk spot will be still yucky.

the milk looks like the effect from hard water deposits on a car windsheild. there must be some rinse the ASE's go through and some are not completely or properly rinsed either by contaminated rinse (used up).

my SWAG is whatever vat or device the coins are rinsed in has gone beyond it's (the rinse agent) lifespan and shold be changed more frequently. any enlightenment would be appreciated.

Bochiman · July 26, 2007 6:49AM

<< <i>Here is one with milkspots and hard toning: note the milkspot under the "B"

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Thank you. Having been lucky to not have many, and none that were raw, with milkspots, I didn't know what it would do when toned.

Boom · July 26, 2007 8:57AM

This sums it up quite succinctly.

<< Since milkspots are not ON the surface of the coin but IN the surface of the coin, they are not removeable.>>

Toning over milkspots ?

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