I started a thread about this coin a while back...I guess they're still trying to sell it...WAY fake!
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No hold on a second. My take is that it is a lacquer coin with the center pealed off, not a lamination split like he describes. Note that luster in the IGWT lettering...Could be a decent coin after dipped in lacquer thinner or acetone. But I would not gamble that high to find out.
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<< <i>No hold on a second. My take is that it is a lacquer coin with the center pealed off, not a lamination split like he describes. Note that luster in the IGWT lettering...Could be a decent coin after dipped in lacquer thinner or acetone. But I would not gamble that high to find out.
Prior to 1970 a genuine 1922 no D was very rare and almost impossible to find. During the 1970s they were showing up everywhere and obvious fakes. During the 1980s many of these were certified, graded and slabed by the emerging grading services.
The coin has been mis-labled as a variety or a type when in fact it is an ERROR coin. In die repair the Denver Mint polished the MM off one or more of its working dies while waiting on new dies from the Philly Mint.
The 1922 no D is best avoided. As an error coin it has no place in a pure Lincoln collection.
I'd call it Lincoln in disguise with that fake beard and what appears to be sunglasses. I'd offer him $1.19 for it if postage was included. Too bad it's the 16th could use it as an icon, but then again he's the type that would sue for infringement.
His response to my inquiry as to authenticity.......
took it to anacs at the show in west palm. They want me to send it to be tested. Didnt know for sure until they have it weighted etc. thank we weight it and it was correct weight. Laminate was caused by oil on die. Let who ever wants to certify it. When certified it will be worth its weight in GOLD
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Look at the feedback 98% Look at this, if you look down the feedback! .
CROOK ALERT !Sent different fake coin and refuses to make good. A CROOK! bobbie2die4 ( 284) May-08-07 18:51 Reply by wartex (May-09-07 05:12): COIN DEALER WHO THREATENS YOU WITH FBI IF IF YOU DONT REDUCE YOUR PRICE.SCAM
1909 S VDB MS 64+ RED (#270104752421) US $1,995.00 View Item
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<< <i>His response to my inquiry as to authenticity.......
took it to anacs at the show in west palm. They want me to send it to be tested. >>
That is because under the new owner, ANACS no longer gives verbal opinions at shows. All coins have to be submitted. I guarantee you the people at the ANACS table would know at a glance that the piece was fake, but under corperate policy they can't say so. They have to tell you that you have to send it in. So taking it to the ANACS table means nothing.
That is laughable......there is absolutely no way that 'token' is real! It looks like what I like to call the 'Angry Abe' repro's you can find on eBay at any given time, like these:
He can call it whatever he wants...lamination? huh?? where???
It won't change the fact that the lettering is all wrong, the numerals in the date are too fat and too squished together, the letters in 'Liberty' are also way too fat and squished together.
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<< <i>The "coin" is not in any way a genuine 1922 No D cent. Date style is incorrect, plus a few other problems. >>
You got it right Rich, it's a fakie.
bob
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Ok, if the seller says so. I judge it as a fake.
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<< <i>No hold on a second. My take is that it is a lacquer coin with the center pealed off, not a lamination split like he describes. Note that luster in the IGWT lettering...Could be a decent coin after dipped in lacquer thinner or acetone. But I would not gamble that high to find out.
WS >>
Regardless, it's either fake or altered.
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You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.
During the 1970s they were showing up everywhere and obvious fakes. During the
1980s many of these were certified, graded and slabed by the emerging grading services.
The coin has been mis-labled as a variety or a type when in fact it is an ERROR coin. In die repair the Denver Mint
polished the MM off one or more of its working dies while waiting on new dies from the Philly Mint.
The 1922 no D is best avoided. As an error coin it has no place in a pure Lincoln collection.
I'd call it Lincoln in disguise with that fake beard and what appears to be sunglasses. I'd offer him $1.19 for it if postage was included. Too bad it's the 16th could use it as an icon, but then again he's the type that would sue for infringement.
OB
took it to anacs at the show in west palm. They want me to send it to be tested. Didnt know for sure until they have it weighted etc. thank we weight it and it was correct weight. Laminate was caused by oil on die. Let who ever wants to certify it. When certified it will be worth its weight in GOLD
Look at this, if you look down the feedback! .
CROOK ALERT !Sent different fake coin and refuses to make good. A CROOK! bobbie2die4 ( 284) May-08-07 18:51
Reply by wartex (May-09-07 05:12):
COIN DEALER WHO THREATENS YOU WITH FBI IF IF YOU DONT REDUCE YOUR PRICE.SCAM
1909 S VDB MS 64+ RED (#270104752421) US $1,995.00 View Item
25 inf 1/14 Gold Dragons ,never surrender, over come and adapt
and hold at all cost!
Then why is he selling it for over $1,000?
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<< <i>His response to my inquiry as to authenticity.......
took it to anacs at the show in west palm. They want me to send it to be tested. >>
That is because under the new owner, ANACS no longer gives verbal opinions at shows. All coins have to be submitted. I guarantee you the people at the ANACS table would know at a glance that the piece was fake, but under corperate policy they can't say so. They have to tell you that you have to send it in. So taking it to the ANACS table means nothing.
In a slab or raw --- are they genuine???????
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It won't change the fact that the lettering is all wrong, the numerals in the date are too fat and too squished together, the letters in 'Liberty' are also way too fat and squished together.
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