Do you consider the 2000 Milllennium Set ASE part of the MS ASE Set?

Redbird · July 5, 2007 1:31AM

I know the 2000 Millennium Set American Silver Eagle coin was part of the Millennium Coin and Currency Set, but do consider it part of the Mint State ASE set? Eventhough it is same exact coin as the regular 2000 ASE except for being put in the Millennium Set.

FLBuffaloHunter · July 5, 2007 1:36AM

The coin is part of the Uncirculated ASE set since it was struck at West Point. The 2000 bullion ASE was struck at Philadelphia. The Millenium set ASE is the lowest mintage ASE with a 75,000, besides the 20th anniversary 2-piece Gold & Silver set which had a mintage of 20,000. Only NGC distinguishes that coin as being from the 2 piece set with the blue label 20th anniversary insert.

ModernCrapNut · July 5, 2007 1:41AM

Since it was part of a separate set, I'm not going to worry about it being a part of my ASE set.

Redbird · July 5, 2007 1:45AM

Hi FLBuffaloHunter,
Excellant point I omitted. I wonder if the expert graders at PCGS, NGC, or ANACS would be able to differentiate between the regular 2000 Philadelphia bullion ASE and the 2000 Millennium Set West Point ASE if both were submitted to them without the West Point coin being in the Millennium Set?

FatMan · July 5, 2007 1:49AM

<< The coin is part of the Uncirculated ASE set since it was struck at West Point. The 2000 bullion ASE was struck at Philadelphia. >>

There is no evidence to support that the bullion ASEs were minted in Philadelphia. In fact the evidence supports the opposite. Do you believe the current bullion ASEs are minted in Philadelphia too? It is my understanding that all ASE production was moved to West Point in late 1999. With regards to the 2000 ASEs, the mint has never said either way.

FLBuffaloHunter · July 5, 2007 1:50AM

Only coins subimtted in the sealed holder will be designated as being from the Millenium set by PCGS or NGC. You can remove the outer cellophane, but can't remove the coins from the holder if you want the Millenium set designation.

66Tbird · July 5, 2007 2:00AM

<< I know the 2000 Millennium Set American Silver Eagle coin was part of the Millennium Coin and Currency Set, but do consider it part of the Mint State ASE set? Eventhough it is same exact coin as the regular 2000 ASE except for being put in the Millennium Set. >>

Yes I do. Some say all were minted at west point, then others say it was half and half. But what I remember most was the lead up to the release and the big deal about the Mill set eagles were the only ones minted at the West point's new eagle production facility. And how they couldn't get the MM on them due to time constrains. I figured it would be a hotter item than it was. Then of course the burnished Sac makes it a neat little set. And still dirt cheap IMO

Type2 · July 5, 2007 2:04AM

Gemineye · July 5, 2007 2:10AM

I believe there is a difference...If PCGS can certify a coin and call it First Strike ™ ..why can't the US mint say that the coin is from West Point which is clearly on the packaging ..then is no difference in the coins.

FLBuffaloHunter · July 5, 2007 2:51AM

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<< The coin is part of the Uncirculated ASE set since it was struck at West Point. The 2000 bullion ASE was struck at Philadelphia. >>

There is no evidence to support that the bullion ASEs were minted in Philadelphia. In fact the evidence supports the opposite. Do you believe the current bullion ASEs are minted in Philadelphia too? It is my understanding that all ASE production was moved to West Point in late 1999. With regards to the 2000 ASEs, the mint has never said either way. >>

According to this Press Release, the silver Proof production was shifted to West Point in 2001. No mention of the Uncirculated production though. The 2001 Annual report shows all bullion coins were struck at West Point.

DieClash · July 5, 2007 4:49AM

I thought that only Proof SAEs were minted at Philadelphia and all of the Unc. Bullion were minted at San Francisco and West Point

Bochiman · July 5, 2007 5:34AM

To answer the OP....no, I do not.
I also do not consider the 20th Annv regular proof any different than the regular proof of the same year when it comes to registry or sets. I know some will as they will want the whole 20th annv set and label, but the coin is the same and there is no difference.

TheRaven · July 5, 2007 5:47AM

I have been debating this and thinking of picking up one of these sets to get this coin.....

The set is not really that expensive.....

pf70collector · July 5, 2007 5:47AM

So there is a 2000 W and a 2000 P mint mark on these? I didn't pay attention to the millenium set

FLBuffaloHunter · July 5, 2007 5:58AM

<< So there is a 2000 W and a 2000 P mint mark on these? I didn't pay attention to the millenium set >>

Unfortunatly, the Mint did not mint mark the Millenium set ASE. It is this coin dealers opinion that had they included a mint mark they would sell for considerably more. The bullion coins do not have a mint mark.-

JapanJohn · July 5, 2007 6:20AM

For my money the ASE in that set is the same as regular production ASE's. I wouldn't buy one of those sets to complete an ASE collection, however it's a must for the Sacagawea collector with that burnished Sac in there.

John

crito · July 5, 2007 6:47AM

FWIW, ICG puts a (W) on the label.

Gemineye · July 5, 2007 7:00AM

For What it's worth...this has been thrown back and forth a few times before.Some consider the coin to be the same ..and some say different. A considerable factor is wheather or not the coin was indeed from West Point.
During previous mintages of coins from the mint ,mint marks were also left off from coins from their point of origin.If the mintages of the SAE of the year 2000 were from ..BOTH..Philadelphia ..AND..West Point then they are different...my opinion..

FLBuffaloHunter · July 5, 2007 7:05AM

<< For What it's worth...this has been thrown back and forth a few times before.Some consider the coin to be the same ..and some say different. A considerable factor is wheather or not the coin was indeed from West Point.
During previous mintages of coins from the mint ,mint marks were also left off from coins from their point of origin.If the mintages of the SAE of the year 2000 were from ..BOTH..Philadelphia ..AND..West Point then they are different...my opinion.. >>

The bullion ASE's which are sold only to dealers have never had a mint mark. Only some $5 & $10 2000 AGE that were struck with unfinished proof dies by mistake had mint marks.

DieClash · July 5, 2007 8:40AM

The COA on the back of the Millenium Set cover indicates West Point mint.

But I don't think that Philadelphia ever produced the unc. bullion (only San Francisco and West Point through 2000). I know that Philadelhia, San Francisco and West Point produced Proof SAEs, but all the Proof coins have a mint mark. From 2001 to date West Point is producing all of the SAEs.

Do you consider the 2000 Milllennium Set ASE part of the MS ASE Set?

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