Rare Ballistic Rolls of Presidential Dollars - get 'em now!
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Anyone else see these absurd offers from World Reserve Monetary exchange (WRME)? They are selling a roll of dollars (54 coins) for $88 plus $11 shipping. Their scam is marketing these as "gold" coins in a "mammoth plastic roll" with a "never circulated" sticker.
The roll is placed in a gold box stamped like a bar - 425 grams, US Legal Tender, Ballistic Roll, never circulated. The clear plastic roll allows one to see the impressive edge markings. They are stored in heavy vault "bricks" and transported by dollies with "guards" in official-style uniforms. If you act now during this special early release you get free coin(s). (I gather you get one free Presidential per roll). For a net $99 you get $55 worth of coins that are sitting at your local bank. My wife brought some home last week for $1 each but they were not Ballistic Rolls (TM).
-These are never before seen Ballistic rolls
-The phones are ringing off the hook
-You only have 72 hours to act
-You can't get these Ballistic rolls anywhere else - not the mint, FED,
or any bank. This quote from the national ad:
"We can't stop people from breaking open the sealed tubes and handling the presidential coins individually. But anyone who does would be a FOOL. So, to keep that from happening we are giving away a free Pres. dollar coin with each Ballistic roll. That way everyone can still examine and show off the individual free coin without breaking the seal on the valuable Ballistic Rolls."
"We have to put limits on dealers. But everyone else who calls should be able to get what they need."
Ok so don't all order at once and jam the phones even more.
And please don't say you're a dealer or you're screwed.
Just their latest scam. They've done the same thing with uncut sheets of currency that they get from the BEP and market as something unique. The photo of the roll is blown up by a factor of 2 to make the roll look like a night stick. A guard is using 2 hands to stack the BR's into a pile. At about a pound per roll you would wonder why he is bending at the waist as well. Did anyone make the "public unveiling" in NY City. Odd since they ship these out of Ohio?
Are these rolls ballistic because once you find out you paid double face value for junk you'll literally go BALLISTIC? Or is it because when loaded into small cannons these act as useful projectiles?
Hey, at $99 per shot, these 54 coins can do a heap of damage.
No shipments allowed to MA, CT, MN, TN, VT. I can only think that these guys in Ohio want nothing to do with the active Attorneys General in those other states. I know that the CT AG is a stickler for scams.
roadrunner
The roll is placed in a gold box stamped like a bar - 425 grams, US Legal Tender, Ballistic Roll, never circulated. The clear plastic roll allows one to see the impressive edge markings. They are stored in heavy vault "bricks" and transported by dollies with "guards" in official-style uniforms. If you act now during this special early release you get free coin(s). (I gather you get one free Presidential per roll). For a net $99 you get $55 worth of coins that are sitting at your local bank. My wife brought some home last week for $1 each but they were not Ballistic Rolls (TM).
-These are never before seen Ballistic rolls
-The phones are ringing off the hook
-You only have 72 hours to act
-You can't get these Ballistic rolls anywhere else - not the mint, FED,
or any bank. This quote from the national ad:
"We can't stop people from breaking open the sealed tubes and handling the presidential coins individually. But anyone who does would be a FOOL. So, to keep that from happening we are giving away a free Pres. dollar coin with each Ballistic roll. That way everyone can still examine and show off the individual free coin without breaking the seal on the valuable Ballistic Rolls."
"We have to put limits on dealers. But everyone else who calls should be able to get what they need."
Ok so don't all order at once and jam the phones even more.
And please don't say you're a dealer or you're screwed.
Just their latest scam. They've done the same thing with uncut sheets of currency that they get from the BEP and market as something unique. The photo of the roll is blown up by a factor of 2 to make the roll look like a night stick. A guard is using 2 hands to stack the BR's into a pile. At about a pound per roll you would wonder why he is bending at the waist as well. Did anyone make the "public unveiling" in NY City. Odd since they ship these out of Ohio?
Are these rolls ballistic because once you find out you paid double face value for junk you'll literally go BALLISTIC? Or is it because when loaded into small cannons these act as useful projectiles?
Hey, at $99 per shot, these 54 coins can do a heap of damage.
No shipments allowed to MA, CT, MN, TN, VT. I can only think that these guys in Ohio want nothing to do with the active Attorneys General in those other states. I know that the CT AG is a stickler for scams.
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That gets my vote!
I saw that ad - I couldn't stop laughing!
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But............800-924-7945.
Feel free to call and jam the lines a tad more.
But, I have no idea if that "800" number is a true toll free call or just another $$ portion of the scam. And we may be past the 72hr bonus period, so don't be mad if you miss out on the "free" dollar.
roadrunner
425 stamped in large letters to give subliminal impression there are 425 coins.
What a terrible scam...............
roadrunner
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SR603.
I can see why they do this. Rather than specialists who call from word of mouth. They want the real clams who actually read the advertisement. And SR603 is also stamped on the tip of your intercontinental ballistic roll (lol)
Next thing they'll ask you for are the launch codes.
roadrunner
<< <i>No shipments allowed to MA, CT, MN, TN, VT. I can only think that these guys in Ohio want nothing to do with the active Attorneys General in those other states. I know that the CT AG is a stickler for scams.
roadrunner >>
Yeah, they must know better than to mess with Blumenthal.
I saw that outrageous ad in the NY Post the other day -- I would think they would avoid NY as well, given they tend to have aggressive AGs, and one of them is now governor.
<< <i>-You can't get these Ballistic rolls anywhere else - not the mint, FED,
or any bank. >>
So where do they come from? "Why we make them up ourselves after we scan all the coins for plain edges, doubled letters, clips, high grade coins, or anything else that might make them worth more than a dollar apiece."
Does anyone know a reputable dealer/website where I can get either collectible roll, sets, or packaging for Presidential dollar coins?
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>you can get rolls and proof sets from the mint website >>
I doubt that they are 'ballistic", though.
Do these people even know the meaning of the word? This is hilarious!
From Merriam-Webster:
bal·lis·tic
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin ballista
Date: circa 1775
1 : of or relating to ballistics or to a body in motion according to the laws of ballistics
2 : being or characterized by repeated bouncing <ballistic stretching>
3 : extremely and usually suddenly excited, upset, or angry
I wonder which one they think applies, maybe #2 as in stretching the truth.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
just completed 3d tour to Iraq and retired after 28+ years in the US Army
<< <i>Do you have a link? Is this the government mint website? >>
Here you go...
http://www.wrme.net/
There is another simialr ad running about $5 gold, too
ANA members.
oh, pcgs recognizes a new variety? rush to get the coins cracked
out and in the new slab. pop 1 with none higher!! wowzer!!
this hobby disgusts me most of the time.
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http://www.uni-syn.com/Wrme.htm another site.
http://coincollector.org/archives/004324.html
to top if all off, these people also sell drugs online.
usual scum of the earth.
http://www.skylan.net/skylan.htm
this guy appears to own a little turd of an ISP and uses his resources
with other scammers to make money. i wish i was on efnet still and
knew a few packet kids. put their botnets to good use for 25 dollars
paypal'd to brazil ;-)
he is all over the open source mailing lists. security lists. apache,
etc...
In walks a lady, probably 50+ in age, she had her recently deceased Mother's "collection". All of it was from the Washington Mint, Franklin Mint, Coin Vault, etc. You get the picture.
It was a very sad story as she brought out her treasures. She was fighting back tears after 20 minutes or so. I stayed way across the room and watched for a while. I did overhear her say her Mother had spent over 200K over the last few years, her life savings, thinking she would be able to assure her great-grandchildren tuition for college. I had to leave before she had gotten even halfway through her boxes of stuff.
It was just heartbreaking to watch. I'd love to get a few of those sellers that ripped her elderly Mother alone in a room for just a few minutes.
If I could get a jury of my peers(ie; posters from here), it would be justifiable homicide.
Those telemarketers who prey on the elderly are the absolute worst scum on the planet.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
If the World Reserve Monetary Exchange by their own admission is NOT affiliated with the US Mint or Federal Reserve where did the buy their Presidential dollars from? What I am saying is essentially since they are not affiliated with any government agency that legally has the authority to sell uncirculated coins, effectively once they bought their coins from whereever and used workers to stuff these coins into their infamous ballistic cylinders weren't these coins touched by hands outside of the US Mint and at that point considered "in circulation"? I would think that unless they were sealed in tubes or plastic by the US Mint anything that left the US Mint and was "tubed" elsewhere by an unaffiliated agency would be considered "in circulation" correct?
I truly love that photo showing "the coins" being transported by dollies with "guards" in official-style uniforms into what looks like one of the entrances of Grand Central Station or the Met Life Building in Manhattan. I live in NYC and read nowhere about this "unveiling" until long after it was over and the coins were put up for sale via their newspaper ads. I wonder if any photos exist showing the 5 unarmed "guards" (every armored car delivery I have ever seen in NYC was with armed guards) making the delivery of these coins to their Ohio distribution center since they ship out of the Buckeye State?
There is another earlier ad by this company showing three men dressed in very nice suits standing at what looks like a ceremony. One guy has an award ribbon and medal around his neck (I can't imagine what the medal is for) and one of the men is "presenting" the other man with the ribbon and medal with a coin display (much like the map for the 50 state quarter program) with 44 of what is supposed to be the Presidential Dollar coins (close-up photo showing the actual coins was not provided). I counted the coins on the display in the ad and there are 44 of them. When you consider this it is a truly amazing feat by the folks at the World Reserve Monetary exchange as these coins (after Martin Van Buren) have not even been designed yet. WOW! Color me impressed. How did they get all 44 (two for Grover Cleveland) Presidential Dollar coins when the US Mint has not created these coins to date? Any company that can pull off a feat that spectacular has my vote.
<< <i>I would think that unless they were sealed in tubes or plastic by the US Mint anything that left the US Mint and was "tubed" elsewhere by an unaffiliated agency would be considered "in circulation" correct? >>
If that were the that case, there wouldn't be any uncirculated coins, except the ones sold by the mint. In more practical terms, "uncirculated" relates to the amount (or, more accurately, the lack) of wear a coin has been subjected to. As long as the coin shows no evidence of wear, it really doesn't matter where it's been. I mean... if you can't tell one coin (which was just now struck at the mint) from another (which was shipped by the mint somewhere, and packaged by *whoever*), is there really any difference between them?
Uncirculated is a coin's condition and not whether or not it has been "untouched" by human hands outside of the US Mint.
The name is LEE!
Just catered to a different market of people who are not willing to research what they buy first. Not sure who to blame there.
There is another earlier ad by this company showing three men dressed in very nice suits standing at what looks like a ceremony. One guy has an award ribbon and medal around his neck (I can't imagine what the medal is for) and one of the men is "presenting" the other man with the ribbon and medal with a coin display (much like the map for the 50 state quarter program) with 44 of what is supposed to be the Presidential Dollar coins (close-up photo showing the actual coins was not provided). I counted the coins on the display in the ad and there are 44 of them. When you consider this it is a truly amazing feat by the folks at the World Reserve Monetary exchange as these coins (after Martin Van Buren) have not even been designed yet.
made me wonder if they search rolls for high ends then assemble this crap afterwards
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