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Anybody else notice that the vast majority of complaints about eBay sellers...

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
...Involve Power Sellers? Just a thought.

Russ, NCNE

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    66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭
    Maybe it is because the complainers believe that powersellers are actually operating at a higher standard, and then they are shocked when something goes wrong?
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Statistically, shouldn't that be the case?
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Statistically, shouldn't that be the case? >>



    Are there more Power Sellers on eBay than non Power Sellers?

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,161 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Statistically, shouldn't that be the case? >>



    Are there more Power Sellers on eBay than non Power Sellers?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Probably not, but I bet they sell close to 70% of the items sold on The Bay. image
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As in "it is the power sellers who are having the problems"? Or as in "having problems with power sellers"?

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508
    whatever you guys do, stay away from Compucheap ! image

    sorry Russ, couldn't resist

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    Could also be because we would be too embarrassed to post problems we had with non powersellers. Who wants to hear forum members respond:

    "You bid on a coin from a guy with 15 feedbacks, never sold a coin before, and the picture looked like a four-year-old took it. What did you think would happen?"
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Could also be because we would be too embarrassed to post problems we had with non powersellers. Who wants to hear forum members respond:

    "You bid on a coin from a guy with 15 feedbacks, never sold a coin before, and the picture looked like a four-year-old took it. What did you think would happen?" >>



    Nah, I don't think that's it. Nobody seems to be embarassed when forum members respond:

    "You bid on a coin from a guy with terrible feedback, a history of over-hyping coins, and posting retaliatory negatives. What did you think would happen?"

    Russ, NCNE
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Darn Power Sellers. They force stuff on you.

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    When do Power Buyers get their moment of fame in the sun?

    I'm still trying to get the star ratings thingy power screwers get.

    Wonder what the ratio of how many items you have to sell verses the people who actually take the time to rate their experience is?
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    << <i>Could also be because we would be too embarrassed to post problems we had with non powersellers. Who wants to hear forum members respond:

    "You bid on a coin from a guy with 15 feedbacks, never sold a coin before, and the picture looked like a four-year-old took it. What did you think would happen?" >>



    What I hate is when a seller has multiple sets of the same thing and they use the same picture over and over and over.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What I hate is when a seller has multiple sets of the same thing and they use the same picture over and over and over. >>



    That's only because you're looking to cherrypick their ass. image

    (Me too, of course).

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    << <i>What I hate is when a seller has multiple sets of the same thing and they use the same picture over and over and over. >>



    That's only because you're looking to cherrypick their ass. image

    (Me too, of course).

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Hehehehe....no denying that. image
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>What I hate is when a seller has multiple sets of the same thing and they use the same picture over and over and over. >>

    That's only because you're looking to cherrypick their ass. image (Me too, of course). Russ, NCNE >>



    When I do this I add the following statement "The coin pictured is one of my coins for sale. Feel free to e-mail for photos of the actual coin(s) I will send you." But I'm not selling anything with cherrypickable varieties, I don't think. --Jerry
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    RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    The vast majority of transactions must be with them as well.
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    << <i>Could also be because we would be too embarrassed to post problems we had with non powersellers. Who wants to hear forum members respond:

    "You bid on a coin from a guy with 15 feedbacks, never sold a coin before, and the picture looked like a four-year-old took it. What did you think would happen?" >>




    I don't think so, I see plenty of bad pics from powersellers too.

    But then many pics look very dark on my monitor, and I can't turn the brightness or contrast up any higher.
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    garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    <<Anybody else notice that the vast majority of complaints about eBay sellers>>

    What's a image just someone that puts more money into eBays pockets each month than norm so the Bay lets them get a way with lowway robbery!
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    garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    <<But then many pics look very dark on my monitor, and I can't turn the brightness or contrast up any higher.>>

    I have a problem where my images look fine on my monitor, but after uploading them to eBay they look like crap! For some reason they get fuzzy and dark on the Bay! I know part of it has to do with reducing the image size, but even the reduced size file looks better on my monitor than the image that appears on eBay! I have opened the coin image on my monitor and the eBay listing page right next to it and they look like totally different coins!
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    sonoranmonsoonsonoranmonsoon Posts: 2,078 ✭✭
    As a buyer, my experience has been I am much more likely to have a problem from a relatively new seller or a seller that does not list often. Very rarely, do I experience a problem from a seller that has been around for a while, Power seller or not.
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Power sellers generate revenue

    E-Bay Likes a strong revenue stream

    Thus, E-Bay likes power sellers.
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    Why the powerseller flames? When you reach a certain volume of sales over a given period the power seller logo automatically appears on your ebay page. It is not something one asks for or strives for, it just happens. All it signifies is you sold a certain volume of coins.
    The super power sellers like Centsles and TNFC that have 30,000 or more feedbacks from selling mostly third world slabs are another story. Dave W






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    poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317
    Simple. If powersellers are doing the majority of the transactions on eBay, they will also have the majority of complaints. It's simple statistics.

    Lets say that one out of every 1000 transactions results in a dissatisfied customer. If you have a better suggestion for this number, you can still replace it and do the same math.

    A seller doing 250 transactions a week as a powerseller will, statistcially speaking, piss one person off in 4 weeks or once a month.

    A seller doing only 20 transactions a week will, statistically speaking, piss one person off every 50 weeks or once a year.

    So, you have 12 or so pissed off people, statistically speaking, every year for each powerseller while only 1 for a non-powerseller doing a much lower volume.

    This is actually not quite accurate information because someone doing 20 transactions a week will probably be better able to handle customers service problems quickly or even have time to prevent them in the first place thus decreasing the (complaints/transactions ratio) while a 250 transaction a week ebay seller might be too busy keeping the product moving to handle customer complaints easily thus increasing the (complaints/transactions ratio) of pissing someone off. This is still slanted in the favor of the smaller volume seller thus helping to cement the facts that larger volume sellers run a higher risk of pissing someone off than a lower volume seller who may/may not be a powerseller.
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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    That Brandon sure is a wiz kid at mathimage
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    RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,158 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Many sellers qualify for powerseller status yet decline the offer.imageimage
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    poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317


    << <i>That Brandon sure is a wiz kid at mathimage >>



    I suppose that is what I get from my calculus 1-2-3, trig 1-2-3, differential equations, statistics, finite math, matrix theory, and computational analysis courses. You would have thought I would have used them for a greater good other than figuring out why powersellers are more often complained about than non-powersellers. image
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    I have sold 5 items in the last month totalling 20K. They just send me a invitation to be a Power Seller.
    5 items! Power Seller? Just freeing up some capital for Morgans. I am more a a Power Buyer. image
    I choose a seller by item pics, description, payment options, feedback percent, recent feedback, etc.
    As always buy the seller.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When you reach a certain volume of sales over a given period the power seller logo automatically appears on your ebay page. >>



    No, it doesn't.

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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Many sellers qualify for powerseller status yet decline the offer.imageimage >>



    Do you know of others besides Russ?
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    << <i>When you reach a certain volume of sales over a given period the power seller logo automatically appears on your ebay page. >>



    No, it doesn't.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Maybe not automatically, but when you reach the requirements, you are a powerseller nonetheless, even if you choose not to identify yourself as such. Saying you are not a powerseller even though you reach the requirements is like saying you are not a Democrat because you are not a registered democrat, even though you always vote a straight democratic ticket in the general election.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>is like saying you are not a Democrat because you are not a registered democrat, even though you always vote a straight democratic ticket in the general election. >>



    Geez, you don't have to be so insulting.

    Russ, NCNE
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just did a search for GOLD coins. Time ending soonest auction led me to THIS

    I am not affiliated with the seller, and he doesn't appear to have complaints plus this seller has 100% positive feedback along with being a POWERSELLER.


    I received an invitation to sign up for commissions from ebay because I am a powerseller. It's something about getting paid when people link to ebay through one's website. I don't understand their business model, but they sure attract a lot of flies with image.

    So why not sign up for PowerSeller Status, Russ ? Do you think it attracts flies, too ?
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    << <i>is like saying you are not a Democrat because you are not a registered democrat, even though you always vote a straight democratic ticket in the general election. >>



    Geez, you don't have to be so insulting.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Sorry, Russ! I wasn't claiming to know your party affiliation -- just giving a general example. image
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So why not sign up for PowerSeller Status, Russ ? >>



    I see no benefit to joining, and don't want the stigma attached to the logo.

    Russ, NCNE
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    << <i>So why not sign up for PowerSeller Status, Russ ? >>



    I see no benefit to joining, and don't want the stigma attached to the logo.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    I can actually see your point with this. An argument could be made that a potential buyer might think to themselves that a powerseller is a professional dealer who isn't going to give their inventory away and that it would be tough to get a good deal from that seller. I'm not sure how often this happens, but it probably does.
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    Brandon, you are almost as good at math as you are at coin photography.


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    << <i>When you reach a certain volume of sales over a given period the power seller logo automatically appears on your ebay page. >>



    No, it doesn't.

    Russ, NCNE >>




    I don't recall ever applying for any kind of powerseller status. They one day just informed me that I am one. I have been automatically raised to platininum or diamond (I forget which) and have recently been demoted to I think iron for decreased sales.
    All I need to do to regain my exalted status is sell a ton of coins at a loss (volume is all that matters) or sell overgraded third world slabs at a huge volume and huge profit. Dave W






    The priceless ingredient in any coin transaction is the integrity of the dealer.
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    RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,158 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Many sellers qualify for powerseller status yet decline the offer.imageimage >>



    Do you know of others besides Russ? >>



    Yes, me.
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    ddinkddink Posts: 2,748


    << <i>Simple. If powersellers are doing the majority of the transactions on eBay, they will also have the majority of complaints. It's simple statistics. >>



    Brandon is right, according to the Law of Large Numbers.
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