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If I buy the coin, do I own the pics too?
If I buy a coin off ebay, do I buy the rights to the sellers pics of that coin too, if I should decide to resell it?
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Having said that, unless one is a professional photographer, most sellers probably don't mind if you use them after you buy the coin.
<< <i>I suck at taking pics. is the reason I was wondering. better pics = double prices. >>
When you buy a coin you can ask the seller if they mind if you use their images to show the coin online. I'd wager 95% of them will be okay with it, and they'll probably appreciate your asking.
A photograph is a separate entity. It is, in itself, an item as it could be sold as a picture or print simular to the way photographers sell photos to magazines, etc.
Tyler
Gotta ask though!
Photos are an additional $19.95 per shot!
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Just do what I do...do some slight changes to the coins background color. Problem solved!
Tyler >>
Not quite... I can recognize coins I've sold years earlier, and I also have all of my images saved. The background change is nothing compared to matching lighting conditions.
You buy the coin, you use the pictures.
If the seller doesn't like it, let him threaten him to sue you and waste his money.
Man....this is sure a silly world if you don't have the right to use a picture of a damn Ebay coin.
<< <i>You buy the coin, you use the pictures. >>
But what if you RETURN the coin? Do you have to take the digital image to the drugstore and have prints made to include with the returned coin?
That might make a good "return policy."
Or CANCEL all the pix with a big broad strip across em to assert your RIGHTS. Explain fully in the description that the strip does not hide any defects.
Unless it DOES. In which case, provide a SEPARATE picture of the portion that you hid.
Just to do the right thing.
what about a real nice drawing?
Edited to add: No, he didn't ask before he did it.
If you have a certain relationship with eBay, eBay will transfer the license to you for images that sellers post on their site. Of course, eBay's transfer to you may not include all uses you may wish.
This is how it was explained to me a while back.
Item Description and Picture Theft
eBay members are not allowed to use another eBay user's pictures or descriptions in their listings or About Me pages without the owner's permission.
<< <i>Probably not, but my mama told me to do the right thing even when I can get away with doing the wrong thing. >>
My mama also told me that "the right thing" isn't dictated by Congress. I believe that, in many cases, there is a WORLD of difference between the "legal" thing to do and the "right" thing to do (how many of you speed?). Unless I know that it's a professionally marketed picture (or they are using it to sell other coins--e.g. a stock photo), I don't see any problem with using an eBay seller's picture. But as others have mentioned, it is "illegal" and you could conceivably be sued for it.
P.S. On the other hand, it is polite to ask permission first. I usually do, and it's never been refused.
<< <i>When you post a picture on an eBay auction, you give eBay a transferable license to use the images IIRC. >>
That might be true if you host the image on eBay's site, but I can't see it being true if they were hosted on another site.
<< <i>If you have a certain relationship with eBay, eBay will transfer the license to you for images that sellers post on their site. Of course, eBay's transfer to you may not include all uses you may wish. >>
But in that case you are still having to ask for permission to use the pictures. You still can't legally just use the pictures without permission.
Just ask the seller when you buy the coin. Better than 99% of the time the seller will give you permission. (By the way, I ask if I can have the RIGHTS to the image not if I can use it. If you have permission to use it and you sell the coin you CAN'T give the next person permission to use it because you don't have that right. His use is not your use so you giving him permission is not covered. But if I have th RIGHTS to the image I can do what I want with it, use if for what ever purpose I want and grant licenses or use rights to others. Permission for use means the image is still theirs. Granting of rights means the image is MINE.)
No, you will never own the pics.
Practice makes perfect & nobody is perfect. So, practice being nobody.
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<< <i>Probably not, but my mama told me to do the right thing even when I can get away with doing the wrong thing. >>
My mama also told me that "the right thing" isn't dictated by Congress. >>
My mom told me that if it's not mine, leave it alone.
<< <i>Photos courtesy of PCGS [...] No, you will never own the pics. >>
Does PCGS transfer ownership of TrueView photos or do they give you a license while retaining ownership themselves?
Many photographers, think wedding photographers, are very reluctant to transfer ownership.
From my understanding, as long as credit is given and permission is granted, it's okay.
Practice makes perfect & nobody is perfect. So, practice being nobody.