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  • critocrito Posts: 1,735
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    Photo is very close. I'd describe colors as blueberry, raspberry and orange.

    Only CAM but it is in a PCGS slab.
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    Canadian goose flying across the moon over Honkers, NY

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    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭
    pharmer - the moon I get, but Honkers, NY??

    I missed yesterday because I thought I was out of new toners - pharmer's post reminded me that I have several slabbed Canadians left. This one is in a PCGS slab (PR66). I'd love to crack it out and get an unplastisized (is that even a word?) shot of it, but I' afraid I would suffer cracker's remorse with this particular coin. So, the second reverse shot remains somewhat muted and hazy.

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    There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.
    –John Adams, 1826
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Geese are commonly called honkers; if you ever heard one you'd know why. image
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  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    Play on words, geese honk, Honkers instead of Yonkers...sorry about that. I fired my writer.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not great, but nice a toner nonetheless. Seller's eBay pix.

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  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Despite having quite a selection of Stack's catalogs from the 1970s, oddly I don't seem to have (or can't find) the James A. Stack catalog !!! I will have to get my hands on one, so I can see the plates of the Barber quarters, and see if I can identify any of them. I know some of J.A. Stack's coins were sold by Stack's at later dates as well, including January 1990, 1994, etc. Did the 1975 catalog contain a complete set of MS Barber quarters ??

    Best,
    Sunnywood >>



    Hi Sunnywood,
    Yes, it was a complete set. Unfortunately it doesn't have the depth of description or images in color we are accustomed to seeing in contemporary catalogues. There are some outstanding quarter/ half rarities in it, many with provenance, and I am amazed these days at prices, some of which were high at that time of course ( eg. superb 1901-s went for $5500) I bought this catalogue and the Reed Hawn collection of 1977 mostly for the seated quarters in it sometime in the early 80's as although I was a collector since a kid in the early 60's, wasn't introduced to gem quality material until the late 70's thru the late Gene Edwards at South Jersey Rare Coins (SJRC), who by the way had some outstanding Barber material.

    JD
  • SunnywoodSunnywood Posts: 2,683
    Hi JD,

    I am familiar with the poor images and descriptions of older auction catalogs, especially in series that were less rare and less old, such as Barbers. However, sometimes it is possible, even from a poor black and white low resolution image, to make a positive identification on a coin based on the patterns of toning, spots, etc. For me this is always a source a great pleasure, when I discover a past appearance of one of the coins in my collection.

    For example, in the Auction '90 catalog (one of the so-called pre-ANA "apostrophe sales" that comprised 500 lots lots each from four different sponsoring dealers, for a total of 2000 lots), I found the following description of an 1894-S quarter by David Akers, which was accompnied by a relatively poor black and white image. Nonetheless, it was possible from the image to make an absolutely certain positive ID on the coin, as being the one in my set.

    Here is the Akers description from 1990, followed by some images of the coin, which is my post for Wednesday, May 2nd:

    David Akers, Auction '90 (8/11/90:1581, $7250)

    "An incredibly beautiful coin with medium (on the reverse) to deep (on the obverse)
    multicolored iridescent toning that really must be seen to be fully appreciated.
    The strike is absolutely full and the lustre under the toning radiates through.
    Only one other 1894-S quarter has been graded as high as MS66 by NGC
    (none by PCGS) and it is hard for us to imagine a finer or prettier specimen
    than this one."

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  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
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    AJ
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
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    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭
    Well, I just scanned the entire thread to see if I had posted this here yet. I have not - so here it goes. This one is raw and easy to get a pretty good shot of.

    In keeping with the Yonkers/honkers theme ----

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    BTW, when you have a half hour or so, don't forget to review the entire thread - it is an outstanding thread with pictures of many great coins.
    There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.
    –John Adams, 1826
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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
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    Great coins are not cheap,and cheap coins are not great!
  • raycycaraycyca Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭
    How about this one? Ray image
    You only live life once, enjoy it like it's your last day. It just MIGHT be!

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  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
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  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    Not sure if I've done this one yet, Mesquite, have a few more to go. Imaged in the shade with the sky reflection providing illumination.

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    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭
    pharmer, NICE. I think you nailed that one. As always, your coins are outstanding! I once had the goal of owning them all (the superbly toned Canada Commems, that is). This thread has convinced me that a more realistic goal should be for me to own those that you don't own(or spot first). Happy hunting. See you tomorrow.

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    There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.
    –John Adams, 1826
  • SunnywoodSunnywood Posts: 2,683
    Pharmer, excellent images of some very nice coins !!

    Here's my contribution for Thursday, May 3rd:

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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭
    Here's mine for today:
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    Also discovered that my 1876-s half had a cert pic over at PCGS that I was not aware of when I posted the original pic the other day, thought it might be of some interest as it is somewhat different than the other image:
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    John D'.
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    729

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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
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    Great coins are not cheap,and cheap coins are not great!
  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
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  • MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭
    This one showed up yesterday. I like it even though the obverse colors a bit muted.

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    There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.
    –John Adams, 1826
  • airedaleairedale Posts: 505
    Toned is unfortunately a thing that happens to coins. If a coin I am looking for is toned and I want it, well I guess that is OK. Would I ever pay a premium for a toned coin? Not.
    John
    Chance favors the prepared mind.
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  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Toned is unfortunately a thing that happens to coins. If a coin I am looking for is toned and I want it, well I guess that is OK. Would I ever pay a premium for a toned coin? Not. >>



    Brilliant is a thing that happens to 19th century silver too. Unfortunately, it is almost invariably the result of an encounter with a jar of Jeweluster or the equivalent by some misguided individual, as it is virtually impossible for siver to have survived that long without some degree of patina. Would I pay a premium for a brilliant 19th century silver coin. Nope, wouldn't even buy it at a discount. Would I pay a premium for that same coin properly graded with attractive patina? You bet I would. To each his own I suppose.

    John D'.
  • MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭
    Airedale - thanks for sharing.
    There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.
    –John Adams, 1826
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
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    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    This has a nice unlisted ddr on IGWT and STATES OF, as well as the beak.

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    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • airedaleairedale Posts: 505
    The tiny little gold crust on the '59 DC Franklin in my signature line I like. The fluorescent and rainbow toning I see lately is a joke. Dump your AT's
    John
    Chance favors the prepared mind.
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  • MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭
    Airedale, again, thanks for sharing (get the hint?). You could do me a big favor and stop posting your opinions regarding toning on this thread. Post this stuff on the thread you started a few hours ago. We have gone many weeks without any kind of bravo sierra from the rest of the forum members, and I'd like to see that continue. Just a thought and a courtesy request.
    There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.
    –John Adams, 1826
  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭
    That's an amazing 04-O Pharmer!image
  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
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  • airedaleairedale Posts: 505


    << <i>Airedale, again, thanks for sharing (get the hint?). You could do me a big favor and stop posting your opinions regarding toning on this thread. Post this stuff on the thread you started a few hours ago. We have gone many weeks without any kind of bravo sierra from the rest of the forum members, and I'd like to see that continue. Just a thought and a courtesy request. >>


    John
    Chance favors the prepared mind.
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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    By Monday any premium people paid for toners will be halved

    What the hell are you talking about?
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    Supposedly foxxye/supercarcoins/bubbah and bushmaster have some INCREDIBLE revelation coming for all of us, as a sequel to their two coin-docs-good-better threads. This guy is one of them, another alt ID.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    Supposedly foxxye/supercarcoins/bubbah and bushmaster have some INCREDIBLE revelation coming for all of us, as a sequel to their two coin-docs-good-better threads. This guy is one of them, another alt ID.

    Im sure it will be riveting.

    I bet they are going to prove that neon Silver Eagle is AT. That or something along those lines. Big f'n deal.

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  • airedaleairedale Posts: 505
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    John
    Chance favors the prepared mind.
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  • MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭
    Today's contribution. 750

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    There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.
    –John Adams, 1826

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