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08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭
I am working on a 1955 (birthyear) set in MS66 and just bought the following from one of Russ' auctions.

Incidentally his auction pictures are exact and received coin in a couple of days.
Here are his pics:

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Now my question is this.

I always save the auction pictures on my desktop and check them with the coin when I receive it to be sure it is the same coin and to see if if it was represented properly.

Sometimes I have used the auction pictures when I resold an item and like in this thread I used Russ' pictures.

I have been thinking that this may not be legal or at least not appropriate to do so.

What do you think about the question and the coin?


Rookie Joe






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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin.. ask Russ about the pictures - they are his. Others should be checked with if you use theirs..... Cheers, RickO
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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,236 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can never go wrong asking the person who imaged the coin what they feel about the issues you brought up.
    Good luck with your 55 set.


    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

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    jgrinzjgrinz Posts: 985 ✭✭✭
    It is my interpretation that when you purchase a coin , you own any likenesses and descriptions of said coin.
    I usually supply them to my customers if requested in original EXTREMELY large format.

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    You should ask Russ about the picture thing. Also, I'd love to hear what you think about the coin (please, indulge me image ).
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    percybpercyb Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It is my interpretation that when you purchase a coin , you own any likenesses and descriptions of said coin.
    I usually supply them to my customers if requested in original EXTREMELY large format. >>


    Sounds like the law here.
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    08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You should ask Russ about the picture thing. Also, I'd love to hear what you think about the coin (please, indulge me image ). >>



    As a disclaimer I have not seen many coins in ths era and not familiar with grading them.

    When I first saw the listing my thoughts were that I prefer white rather than splotchy toning. I figured in hand it would be a little lighter than the pic and it is.

    Also I expected a little less hits for a 66 I noticed 2 on the obverse and 3 on the reverse although not deep or obvious.

    The strike on the reverse appears a little weak, may be typical for this year. Also it appears to have a die crack running through the RIBUS in pluribus.

    Overall I am very happy with it.


    Rookie Joe
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just like to ripoff Russ' photos image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    CaptainRonCaptainRon Posts: 1,189 ✭✭
    In my opinion, once the owner posts the pictures in public domain way. ie these forums, ebay, or a website. If they do not stipulate, that the picture can not be reused, in same the location were they posted that picture, Then they are free game.........

    Ron
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You go Bochi.. run, run, run... image: Funny; Cheers, RickO
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    LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162


    << <i>Sometimes I have used the auction pictures when I resold an item and like in this thread I used Russ' pictures.

    I have been thinking that this may not be legal or at least not appropriate to do so.

    What do you think about the question and the coin? >>



    I believe pictures belong to the original taker for all eternity unless released by same or a disclaimer of some sort like the one used for these forums.

    I like the coinimage
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    08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice coin.. ask Russ about the pictures - they are his. Others should be checked with if you use theirs..... Cheers, RickO >>



    That is what I was thinking. Some have invested a reasonable amount of money in equipment and developed a skill in taking coin photos and should have rights to their photos (property). Just because I now own the coin I do not think I own the rights to their photos.

    This question was not specific to Russ' photo of this coin. I just started to think about this topic again when I planned to share my new purchase.

    I will take your advice and ask any sellers if I can use their photos.

    Rookie Joe
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    I don't know about the pictures issue, but I do like the washington. I usually save sellers' pictures after I purchase a coin, if the images are nice. But I don't do anything with them, other than occasionally show them here..
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>In my opinion, once the owner posts the pictures in public domain way. ie these forums, ebay, or a website. If they do not stipulate, that the picture can not be reused, in same the location were they posted that picture, Then they are free game........ >>



    You are, of course, wrong.

    That said, I have always allowed any of my buyers to use my images in any way they please, including if they decide to sell the coin. Many ask first and it's nice when they do, but not necessary.

    Russ, NCNE
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It is my interpretation that when you purchase a coin , you own any likenesses and descriptions of said coin. >>



    Incorrect. The person who created the image and the description owns the copyright. The buyer owns only the coin.

    Russ, NCNE
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    08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭
    I have always allowed any of my buyers to use my images in any way they please, including if they decide to sell the coin. Many ask first and it's nice when they do, but not necessary.

    Russ,




    Thanks Russ
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    Don't use someone else's pictures unless you have their permission! They retain the rights to the pictures. On eBay they'll take your auction down if anyone complains. I had a couple sellers copy my pics for their items, and they were gone in a flash. image
    The coin is very nice, but what are the marks on it?
    "Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore"

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    08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Don't use someone else's pictures unless you have their permission! They retain the rights to the pictures. On eBay they'll take your auction down if anyone complains. I had a couple sellers copy my pics for their items, and they were gone in a flash. image
    The coin is very nice, but what are the marks on it? >>



    Are you referring to the marks I saw or some that you see?

    The marks I saw were 1 on Washington's neck and 1 in hair.
    On reverse a couple on bottom of wings and on 'unum'.
    All pretty light and not distracting.

    Joe

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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    You need to ask the owner's permission to use the pic.

    Nice coin, by the way.
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