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***Official***2007 Little Rock Central High School Desegregation Silver Dollar Program

GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
Enjoy the latest high res images of the actual coins below.....Unc. and then Proof

Certainly lots of symbolism from a famous photo of the time.

From an artistic standpoint, I like the tree in the lumpy grass.

This series may prove to be a sleeper....to be available on May 15th.

Thoughts and comments welcome.

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  • OneCentOneCent Posts: 3,561
    I will purchase one Proof and One Unc...both silver.

    I also like the design and appreciate the historical significance.

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  • BigDaddyzBigDaddyz Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭
    interesting...the proof has way more detail than the unc

    actually, one has more detail on the obv and the other on the rev
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm all for the historical event.
    I don't like the design for the commem though and won't buy one.
    I think the USMint is doing way too many commems in too short of a time and I, maybe others as well, am getting burned out on them.

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  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    I'll buy one of each too, just like I alway do. I wish I'd have never started collecting these since now I feel I have to buy them every year.
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977


    << <i>I'll buy one of each too, just like I alway do. I wish I'd have never started collecting these since now I feel I have to buy them every year. >>

    Yep, me too. I'm a slave to the set.
  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I'll buy one of each too, just like I alway do. I wish I'd have never started collecting these since now I feel I have to buy them every year. >>

    Yep, me too. I'm a slave to the set. >>




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  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    Isn't that image of the feet of the kids walking (and the one army guy with a rifle) based on a Norman Rockwell illustration?

    (And why does Little Rock HS look like Rydell HS in "Grease"?)
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  • Just change some of the wording and it'd be a perfect ad for "Nike Supports Education" image
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any guesses on if this will sell out?
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977


    << <i>Any guesses on if this will sell out? >>

    Not a chance IMO
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Isn't that image of the feet of the kids walking (and the one army guy with a rifle) based on a Norman Rockwell illustration?

    (And why does Little Rock HS look like Rydell HS in "Grease"?) >>



    That was my first impression, and I tried to find it on a Rockwell site, but couldn't.

    On a different note, the lettering above the doorway must set the record for the smallest type ever found on a U.S. coin.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of my issues with the design is that it highlights the nine students with a single soldier making it seem like only a single soldier was needed in the historic event. The students needed 1200 troops to protect them from a 1000+ person mob, the magnitude of which is lost with the design.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I am also burnt out just after a couple years of collecting these commems. I already sold the ones in my collection to simplify my collecting.

    So the answer to me buying these for my set is nope.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am also burnt out just after a couple years of collecting these commems. I already sold the ones in my collection to simplify my collecting. >>

    One problem with modern commems IMO is that there are so many of them and they have differing themes so it is hard to stay excited about them as the Mint makes them year after year.

    I collect SCDs along a few themes. There are some modern commems I want to add to my collection because they fit those themes but I have no intention of collecting them all or even acquiring some of the pricey ones in today's bull market. I find collecting by theme more exciting for both SCDs and commems because there are just too many of both to stay excited by every one IMO.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This commemorative may have some future potential as I think it will be a very poor seller as a new issue.
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  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭
    Can any poorly selling new issue escape the notice of Internet speculators?
  • As always, I'll purchase 2-5 Uncirculated examples, cherry pick the best, and sell the rest at issue price.
    And since I've been doing this from 1983 on, I'll be keeping my Commemorative set complete.
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    It reminds me of a painting by Norman Rockwell named "The Problem We All Live With"

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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    it is a stolen image from a painting by norman rockwell i think.

    it shows me the mint is cluess stealing ideas from anywhere it can
    and getting mediocre artists to make the borrowed design.

    what an UGLY slug of metal, not even worthy to call a coin.
    people who buy these get lumped into the same category as
    collector plates with the wizard of oz on it.

    blah, yuck, fooey. the best 3 words i could come up with to
    describe that obvious piece of "collector" crap.
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    FC: not sure which painting you are referring to, but here is the one it kind of reminded me of:

    Rockwell painting

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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    yes that is the picture. the person designing this coin simply stole and added to it.

    reminds me of a high school kid going online to look for his
    art project ideas.
  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    The design is based on a photograph of the event. Apparently newspapers in the south cropped the photo to show only the feet of the students and soldiers.
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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Somebody not familiar with this 50 year old US news story is going to think that the guy with the rifle is a school shooter.

    Like Kent State, Columbine, or Virginia Tech.
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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,744 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK, funny. I do think the idea of the feet sounded good but is quite ugly as is the building. Those SF Mint buildings about did me in for that genre.

    Good cause and an important event with a very ugly rendition. I think that is one reason the Jackie gold never sold - UGLY (but dummy me at the time bought one unc. for 170.00 & now not so dumb). Well, maybe it will sell a few & think I will buy just the unc. and maybe get one for a gift.
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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    The HK-909 KKK, the reason for the desegragration movement .

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  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think that is one reason the Jackie gold never sold - UGLY (but dummy me at the time bought one unc. for 170.00 & now not so dumb). >>



    My Dad is still kicking himself for being "smart" enough to pass on this issue.
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    My Dad is still kicking himself for being "smart" enough to pass on this issue.

    why, because it went up in value or because he really really liked it?

    :-P
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My Dad is still kicking himself for being "smart" enough to pass on [the gold Jackie]

    why, because it went up in value or because he really really liked it? >>

    I really love the Jackie gold because of the baseball reverse but I'm not huge fan of the obverse. Baseball is as American as apple pie and I think it's very cool for the baseball to take up the entire reverse. Of course I wasn't buying modern Mint products back then.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    May 4, 2007 Mint PR


    WASHINGTON – The United States Mint announced today that it will begin taking orders for the Little Rock Central High School Desegregation 50th Anniversary Silver Dollar at 12:00 noon (ET) on May 15, 2007.

    Public Law 109-146, dated December 22, 2005, authorizes the United States Mint to mint and issue 500,000 silver dollar coins to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the desegregation of Little Rock Central High School.

    A surcharge of $10 per coin is authorized to be paid to the Secretary of the Interior for the protection, preservation, and interpretation of resources and stories associated with Little Rock Central High School National Historic Site, including site improvements; development of interpretive and education programs and historic preservation projects; and the establishment of cooperative agreements to preserve or restore the historic character of the Park Street and Daisy L. Gatson Bates Drive corridors adjacent to the site.

    In the landmark 1954 decision of Brown v. Board of Education, the United States Supreme Court declared racial segregation in the public schools of the United States unconstitutional, culminating in the historic events at Little Rock Central High School in Arkansas in 1957.

    The obverse (heads side) of the silver dollar, designed by United States Mint Artistic Infusion Program Master Designer Richard Masters and sculpted by United States Mint Sculptor-Engraver Charles Vickers, depicts the feet of students escorted by a United States soldier and walking toward school below a row of nine stars symbolizing the Little Rock Nine. In 1957, the Little Rock Nine were the first African-American students to attend Little Rock Central High School.

    The reverse (tails side) of the silver dollar, designed and sculpted by United States Mint Sculptor-Engraver Don Everhart, depicts Little Rock Central High School, circa 1957. Designated a National Historic Site in 1998, the impressive structure still operates as an educational institution, dedicated to preparing today's children to be tomorrow’s leaders.

    The proof silver dollar coin is available for the introductory price of $35, and the uncirculated silver dollar coin for $33, through 12:00 noon (ET) June 13, 2007. Thereafter, the proof silver dollar coin will be $39, and the uncirculated silver dollar coin will be $35. Shipping may take up to four weeks.

    Also available is the Little Rock Coin & Medal Set with a limited-edition of 25,000 units for $40. This set includes the uncirculated silver dollar coin and the Little Rock Nine 1½ inch bronze medal, which honored their selfless heroism during the desegregation of Little Rock Central High School. The obverse of the medal features the students being escorted up the steps of Little Rock Central High School by United States soldiers. The names of each of the Little Rock Nine appear on the reverse, as well as the words "Courage Bravery Justice Opportunity." This product is expected to begin shipping in early June

    To ensure the broadest and fairest access to the Little Rock Central High School Desegregation 50th Anniversary Commemorative Silver Dollar products, a limit of 100 units each per household is in effect for the proof and uncirculated coin options and a limit of 10 units per household for the Coin & Medal Set during the first 30 days of these products' releases. At the end of the initial 30-day period, and each 30-day period thereafter, the United States Mint will reevaluate this limit and either extend, adjust, or remove it.

    Customers can order these products by using the United States Mint's secure website, www.usmint.gov, or by calling 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468). Hearing- and speech-impaired customers may order by calling 1-888-321-MINT (6468). A shipping and handling fee of $4.95 per order will be added to all domestic orders.

    Images of the Little Rock Central High School Desegregation 50th Anniversary Commemorative Silver Dollar Coins can be found on www.usmint.gov/mint_programs, by clicking on "Commemoratives."

    Congress authorizes commemorative coins that celebrate and honor American people, places, events and institutions. Although these coins are legal tender, they are not minted for general circulation. Each commemorative coin is produced by the United States Mint in limited quantity and is available for a limited time.

    As well as commemorating important aspects of American history and culture, these coins help raise funds for important causes. A portion of the price of these coins is a surcharge that is authorized to be paid to recipient organizations for projects that benefit the community. Since the modern commemorative coin program began in 1982, the United States Mint has raised more than $460 million in surcharges for recipient organizations.





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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,885 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>2007 Little Rock Central High School Desegregation Silver Dollar >>

    Lawd, what a mouthful.

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  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>FC: not sure which painting you are referring to, but here is the one it kind of reminded me of:

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    It's not dissimilar to that painting, but this is the photo that the coin is based on:

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  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think the USMint is doing way too many commems in too short of a time and I, maybe others as well, am getting burned out on them. >>

    There are only two commem series this year, as far as I know: Jamestown and Little Rock. Is that too many?

    Since the horrors of 1995-96, the Mint has been quite restrained about commemoratives.
  • I"ll buy one of each if it looks like sales are slow


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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool! Another "First Strike" opportunity!
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I think the USMint is doing way too many commems in too short of a time and I, maybe others as well, am getting burned out on them. >>

    There are only two commem series this year, as far as I know: Jamestown and Little Rock. Is that too many?

    Since the horrors of 1995-96, the Mint has been quite restrained about commemoratives. >>



    Yes.
    Personally, I think it should be 1 design a year (so, 1 proof and 1 unc)
    I am also referencing the 4 different Franklins and all the recent years with more than 1 design. Go for it for those that want them, but for me, they are a slight diversion for me to collect and some I like...I am getting burned out by more than 1 design/year though.
    Same is true for the multitude of state quarters and presidential dollars, etc.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am also referencing the 4 different Franklins and all the recent years with more than 1 design. >>

    Weren't the Franklins considered a success in that they sold out at the Mint?

    The Mint would probably need to see demand/purchases decline to start taking action. As long as people are buying their products....
  • The Mind does NOT make too many commemoratives every year. They only make 2 programs per year. Some programs may contain more than one coin though.

    I do wish the Mint would become a bit more creative with the commems. I would like to see another bimetallic coin like the 2000 Library of Congress $10. Maybe even a reverse proof in the series. Hey, bring back the octagonal gold coin like the 1915 PanPac!

    The Little Rock coin looks pretty neat!
  • FletcherFletcher Posts: 3,294


    << <i>I'm a slave to the set. >>



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  • orieorie Posts: 998
    I'm a slave to the set!

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm a slave to the set! >>

    There are lots of sets to be a slave to in collecting. Thankfully we can choose our poison image
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,744 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Perhaps "slave" might be seen to be the wrong term in this case....
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool. I didn't know they were going to remake the medal. Looks like another possibility for the NGC multi-holder.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One Proof has shipped..........

    2007 LITTLE ROCK CENTRAL HIGH 1 $35.00 $35.00 1 unit shipped on 05/26/2007
    2007 LITTLE ROCK CENTRAL HIGH 5 $33.00 $165.00 In stock and reserved
    2007 LITTLE ROCK COIN AND MEDAL SET 1 $40.00 $40.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 06/26/2007.
  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Any guesses on if this will sell out? >>



    After the hype of the Ben Franklins ..I would be surprised ..The PRF is a nice design
  • CoinMaster1229CoinMaster1229 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭
    recieved my uncirculated order 5/30 image
  • youniqueyounique Posts: 882 ✭✭✭
    Really, I agree with bestday. Proofs & thanks for the info on your receipt !!!!
  • This is only the 5th time the Mint has protrayed actual living Afro-Americans on coins. Since I have a set of BTW's and Carver/ Washinton's I will buy an Unc. and the coin and medal set. I was mad at the mint over the Botanical Garden thing and ordered neither the Robinson or Black Patriot's Commems. I'll pay through the nose for them now.

    I recently purchased some Tuskegee Airmen medals from the Mint. (Now there's a group deserving of a Commem if ever there was one.) I gave 2 of the Tuskegee's to my Veterinariun. He graduated from the Tuskegee Institute and his father was one of the Tuskegee Airmen. He didn't know the medals had been made and was very happy to receive them.

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  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭
    What a great gift, rmoss!

    I've been thinking that the coin and medal "set" (which hopefully has nice packaging!) will make a good gift for my family members that are schoolteachers. Especially since my brother-in-law seems to be getting kind of conservative in his old age (forties); I'll tell him, "Just put this on your desk, and your colleagues won't notice that you haven't put a Hillary sticker on your SUV." image

    I hope the above does not sound irreverent, as I really do think this is an important issue. It's also hard to talk about the politics of this coin without, well, getting into politics on a coin board.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just received my proof LRCHSDSD......very interesting look, beautiful strike.

    Oh, and rmoss, you are a true gentleman......nice going!!!!image

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