<< <i>Subscriptions placed today for this product have a status of "order is in process" rather than "order has been shipped", the latter of which is routine when placing subscriptions prior to the release date.
Something is going on over there at the USM, maybe the amount set aside for subscription has been reached.
This is very encouraging. >>
My order from yesterday(Late last night... after sell out....yep thats right.... after sell out) is no longer in process and went to shipped.(Of course I don't think these ship yet... it just validates the order)
My two subscription orders (including the one placed last night) totaling 15 now show shipped 4/24/07.
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I hesitated to post this thread to begin with. But since everyone has been more than kind to share info with me I would have felt bad if I didn't and it turns out to be correct. WHO KNOWS? But please don't shoot the messenger.
<< <i>I hesitated to post this thread to begin with. But since everyone has been more than kind to share info with me I would have felt bad if I didn't and it turns out to be correct. WHO KNOWS? But please don't shoot the messenger. >>
What is the difference between the Uncirculated American Eagles ordered under the subsription program (which cost 21.95), and the Eagles that you can buy in the monster green boxes (which cost a couple bucks over melt)?
<< <i>What is the difference between the Uncirculated American Eagles ordered under the subsription program (which cost 21.95), and the Eagles that you can buy in the monster green boxes (which cost a couple bucks over melt)? >>
<< <i>Is it worth paying the extra $8 over melt for the mint mark? i.e. should these coins genrally hold at least $8 of premium over melt? >>
Well, when it comes to last year's inaugural issue, which sells raw for around eighty bucks, absolutely.
Many are expecting this year's issue to be minted to demand. Some are now saying, in this thread, they are already sold out (total BS imo). So if you're just into it for bullion value then just go with the standard UNCs, but if you are into it at a collector level, then you might want to consider paying the extra few dollars for these Ws, especially since this issue got rolling just last year.
Gotcha. Assuming this 100,000 mintage rumour is false, then if they mint these to demand these should be worth no more than the bullion which is also minted to demand. Agreed?
<< <i>Gotcha. Assuming this 100,000 mintage rumour is false, then if they mint these to demand these should be worth no more than the bullion which is also minted to demand. >>
You are forgetting a couple of factors. Very few people will be willing to part with a "W" silver eagle for less than they paid. It seems like people enjoy collecting these coins every year, and I would be surprised to see people dumping them at a loss.
On the other hand, silver prices could cause many people to sell their normal monster boxes if silver goes crazy to $18/oz. (or $9/oz.) or something. JMO that the two coins are controlled by different factors.
<< <i>I noticed there are no 2007w ms69 pre-sales going on ebay yet. >>
For PCGS that will be the top grade, NGC is another story, it sucks having to send stuff to two different places because SAE may develope a "Milkspot" in the future...
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<< <i>Gotcha. Assuming this 100,000 mintage rumour is false, then if they mint these to demand these should be worth no more than the bullion which is also minted to demand. Agreed? >>
Don't agree.
I think the 100,000 is false, but that doesn't mean the Mint will mint these until 2008.
They probably have a mintage in mind, but no one knows what it is. That's part of the game.
The did 200,000 singles for 2007. Plus the 'sets'. So 200,000 singles this year might be a good starting point.
I didn't meant gold, I meant silver. 1/2 and 1/4 oz silver seems like a pretty good piggyback on an ASE sellout rumor. Plus, the rumor about fractional gold buffalo coins helps this one seem real, too.
I didn't meant gold, I meant silver. 1/2 and 1/4 oz silver seems like a pretty good piggyback on an ASE sellout rumor. Plus, the rumor about fractional gold buffalo coins helps this one seem real, too. >>
Yes yes! And...
Don't forget ARS 16-117 which prevents the US mint from raising the price of an issue after it has been announced. The W mintmark eagles have already been announced at $21.95 and with silver approaching $15 an ounce, if they keep buying it, the price to mint them will exceed the selling price and they will be forced to stop! Not only that but with the silver proof presidential dollars the mint is already stressed on silver supply--they exhausted their stockpile years ago and must purchase on the open market! Siver to the moon by June! They were only going to mint 10 million eagles of all types and sith 9 million slated for bullion UNCs and close to 1 million for proofs, what does that leave these West Point rarities!? TO THE MOON!
I didn't meant gold, I meant silver. 1/2 and 1/4 oz silver seems like a pretty good piggyback on an ASE sellout rumor. Plus, the rumor about fractional gold buffalo coins helps this one seem real, too. >>
Yes yes! And...
Don't forget ARS 16-117 which prevents the US mint from raising the price of an issue after it has been announced. The W mintmark eagles have already been announced at $21.95 and with silver approaching $15 an ounce, if they keep buying it, the price to mint them will exceed the selling price and they will be forced to stop! Not only that but with the silver proof presidential dollars the mint is already stressed on silver supply--they exhausted their stockpile years ago and must purchase on the open market! Siver to the moon by June! They were only going to mint 10 million eagles of all types and sith 9 million slated for bullion UNCs and close to 1 million for proofs, what does that leave these West Point rarities!? TO THE MOON! >>
I wonder how many people would read that and not see the obvious sarcasm.
I didn't meant gold, I meant silver. 1/2 and 1/4 oz silver seems like a pretty good piggyback on an ASE sellout rumor. Plus, the rumor about fractional gold buffalo coins helps this one seem real, too. >>
Yes yes! And...
Don't forget ARS 16-117 which prevents the US mint from raising the price of an issue after it has been announced. The W mintmark eagles have already been announced at $21.95 and with silver approaching $15 an ounce, if they keep buying it, the price to mint them will exceed the selling price and they will be forced to stop! Not only that but with the silver proof presidential dollars the mint is already stressed on silver supply--they exhausted their stockpile years ago and must purchase on the open market! Siver to the moon by June! They were only going to mint 10 million eagles of all types and sith 9 million slated for bullion UNCs and close to 1 million for proofs, what does that leave these West Point rarities!? TO THE MOON! >>
basestealer, you made me put in a subscription order of 150. If precious metals stay strong as many "experts" predicted, you can't go wrong with w-unc. silver eagles. Upside potential far outweights downside risk.
Maybe they just have 100,000 stockpiled and these will go out first until they mint more. If so this will play a factor in getting the FS label. The 2006 W PF 69 and 70 is feeling some upward pressure I see on ebay also, not just the MS W 06. 70's were in the $200-400 range two months ago and now are approaching $800.
However, keep in mind there is very little downside pressure on this issue with bullion silver eagles selling for 1.60 over melt, currently around 15.50-15.75 per coin.
Downside maxed out at 6 bucks per, but I couldn't see these coins - even with an absolute blowout mintage , bringing less that 18-19 per.
I didn't meant gold, I meant silver. 1/2 and 1/4 oz silver seems like a pretty good piggyback on an ASE sellout rumor. Plus, the rumor about fractional gold buffalo coins helps this one seem real, too. >>
Yes yes! And...
Don't forget ARS 16-117 which prevents the US mint from raising the price of an issue after it has been announced. The W mintmark eagles have already been announced at $21.95 and with silver approaching $15 an ounce, if they keep buying it, the price to mint them will exceed the selling price and they will be forced to stop! Not only that but with the silver proof presidential dollars the mint is already stressed on silver supply--they exhausted their stockpile years ago and must purchase on the open market! Siver to the moon by June! They were only going to mint 10 million eagles of all types and sith 9 million slated for bullion UNCs and close to 1 million for proofs, what does that leave these West Point rarities!? TO THE MOON! >>
I don't know if they will be forced to stop. Nobody is stopping them from minting the nickel. The metal content in that coin alone is over 9 cents.
Coin World Online is reporting that the Mint's spokesman told them April 20th that the silver Burnished Unc. pieces will not go on sale this Fraday after all, just the gold, despite the fact that the Mint's website says otherwise. TD
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Subscription prices are subject to change obviously because they intend to make these for years down the road--and you won't be getting these for $19.95 in 2020. But I don't think they're going to raise the price in 2007 beyond what they already have.
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<< <i>Subscriptions placed today for this product have a status of "order is in process" rather than "order has been shipped", the latter of which is routine when placing subscriptions prior to the release date.
Something is going on over there at the USM, maybe the amount set aside for subscription has been reached.
This is very encouraging. >>
My order from yesterday(Late last night... after sell out....yep thats right.... after sell out) is no longer in process and went to shipped.(Of course I don't think these ship yet... it just validates the order)
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I think the answer is pretty much nothing. A rumor is one thing, but an unactionable rumor is really something.
<< <i>I hesitated to post this thread to begin with. But since everyone has been more than kind to share info with me I would have felt bad if I didn't and it turns out to be correct. WHO KNOWS? But please don't shoot the messenger. >>
most of us shoot blanks anyway.
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<< <i>What is the difference between the Uncirculated American Eagles ordered under the subsription program (which cost 21.95), and the Eagles that you can buy in the monster green boxes (which cost a couple bucks over melt)? >>
The mint mark.
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<< <i>Is it worth paying the extra $8 over melt for the mint mark? i.e. should these coins genrally hold at least $8 of premium over melt? >>
Well, when it comes to last year's inaugural issue, which sells raw for around eighty bucks, absolutely.
Many are expecting this year's issue to be minted to demand. Some are now saying, in this thread, they are already sold out (total BS imo). So if you're just into it for bullion value then just go with the standard UNCs, but if you are into it at a collector level, then you might want to consider paying the extra few dollars for these Ws, especially since this issue got rolling just last year.
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<< <i>Gotcha. Assuming this 100,000 mintage rumour is false, then if they mint these to demand these should be worth no more than the bullion which is also minted to demand. >>
You are forgetting a couple of factors. Very few people will be willing to part with a "W" silver eagle for less than they paid. It seems like people enjoy collecting these coins every year, and I would be surprised to see people dumping them at a loss.
On the other hand, silver prices could cause many people to sell their normal monster boxes if silver goes crazy to $18/oz. (or $9/oz.) or something. JMO that the two coins are controlled by different factors.
<< <i>I noticed there are no 2007w ms69 pre-sales going on ebay yet. >>
For PCGS that will be the top grade, NGC is another story, it sucks having to send stuff to two different places because SAE may develope a "Milkspot" in the future...
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Got it figured out now.
<< <i>Is it worth paying the extra $8 over melt for the mint mark? i.e. should these coins generally hold at least $8 of premium over melt? >>
Two words: Carson City.
<< <i>Gotcha. Assuming this 100,000 mintage rumour is false, then if they mint these to demand these should be worth no more than the bullion which is also minted to demand. Agreed? >>
Don't agree.
I think the 100,000 is false, but that doesn't mean the Mint will mint these until 2008.
They probably have a mintage in mind, but no one knows what it is. That's part of the game.
The did 200,000 singles for 2007. Plus the 'sets'. So 200,000 singles this year might be a good starting point.
I didn't meant gold, I meant silver. 1/2 and 1/4 oz silver seems like a pretty good piggyback on an ASE sellout rumor. Plus, the rumor about fractional gold buffalo coins helps this one seem real, too.
<< <i>??????? Don't you meant gold?
I didn't meant gold, I meant silver. 1/2 and 1/4 oz silver seems like a pretty good piggyback on an ASE sellout rumor. Plus, the rumor about fractional gold buffalo coins helps this one seem real, too. >>
Yes yes! And...
Don't forget ARS 16-117 which prevents the US mint from raising the price of an issue after it has been announced. The W mintmark eagles have already been announced at $21.95 and with silver approaching $15 an ounce, if they keep buying it, the price to mint them will exceed the selling price and they will be forced to stop! Not only that but with the silver proof presidential dollars the mint is already stressed on silver supply--they exhausted their stockpile years ago and must purchase on the open market! Siver to the moon by June! They were only going to mint 10 million eagles of all types and sith 9 million slated for bullion UNCs and close to 1 million for proofs, what does that leave these West Point rarities!? TO THE MOON!
<< <i>
<< <i>??????? Don't you meant gold?
I didn't meant gold, I meant silver. 1/2 and 1/4 oz silver seems like a pretty good piggyback on an ASE sellout rumor. Plus, the rumor about fractional gold buffalo coins helps this one seem real, too. >>
Yes yes! And...
Don't forget ARS 16-117 which prevents the US mint from raising the price of an issue after it has been announced. The W mintmark eagles have already been announced at $21.95 and with silver approaching $15 an ounce, if they keep buying it, the price to mint them will exceed the selling price and they will be forced to stop! Not only that but with the silver proof presidential dollars the mint is already stressed on silver supply--they exhausted their stockpile years ago and must purchase on the open market! Siver to the moon by June! They were only going to mint 10 million eagles of all types and sith 9 million slated for bullion UNCs and close to 1 million for proofs, what does that leave these West Point rarities!? TO THE MOON! >>
I wonder how many people would read that and not see the obvious sarcasm.
<< <i>
<< <i>??????? Don't you meant gold?
I didn't meant gold, I meant silver. 1/2 and 1/4 oz silver seems like a pretty good piggyback on an ASE sellout rumor. Plus, the rumor about fractional gold buffalo coins helps this one seem real, too. >>
Yes yes! And...
Don't forget ARS 16-117 which prevents the US mint from raising the price of an issue after it has been announced. The W mintmark eagles have already been announced at $21.95 and with silver approaching $15 an ounce, if they keep buying it, the price to mint them will exceed the selling price and they will be forced to stop! Not only that but with the silver proof presidential dollars the mint is already stressed on silver supply--they exhausted their stockpile years ago and must purchase on the open market! Siver to the moon by June! They were only going to mint 10 million eagles of all types and sith 9 million slated for bullion UNCs and close to 1 million for proofs, what does that leave these West Point rarities!? TO THE MOON! >>
basestealer,
you made me put in a subscription order of 150. If precious metals stay strong as many "experts" predicted, you can't go wrong with w-unc. silver eagles. Upside potential far outweights downside risk.
Box of 20
However, keep in mind there is very little downside pressure on this issue with bullion silver eagles selling for 1.60 over melt, currently around 15.50-15.75 per coin.
Downside maxed out at 6 bucks per, but I couldn't see these coins - even with an absolute blowout mintage , bringing less that 18-19 per.
A 2 buck risk per coin. Thats my opinion.
<< <i>
<< <i>??????? Don't you meant gold?
I didn't meant gold, I meant silver. 1/2 and 1/4 oz silver seems like a pretty good piggyback on an ASE sellout rumor. Plus, the rumor about fractional gold buffalo coins helps this one seem real, too. >>
Yes yes! And...
Don't forget ARS 16-117 which prevents the US mint from raising the price of an issue after it has been announced. The W mintmark eagles have already been announced at $21.95 and with silver approaching $15 an ounce, if they keep buying it, the price to mint them will exceed the selling price and they will be forced to stop! Not only that but with the silver proof presidential dollars the mint is already stressed on silver supply--they exhausted their stockpile years ago and must purchase on the open market! Siver to the moon by June! They were only going to mint 10 million eagles of all types and sith 9 million slated for bullion UNCs and close to 1 million for proofs, what does that leave these West Point rarities!? TO THE MOON! >>
I don't know if they will be forced to stop. Nobody is stopping them from minting the nickel. The metal content in that coin alone is over 9 cents.
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USM site now says late May/June for Silver UNC W
just got pushed this morning by at least one month.
Has this officially been announced? Do subscriptions being taken at 21.95 per coin effectively take the place of the "announcement"
so I think were are going to get a price increase.
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<< <i>I would not have subcribed today if I had known they pushed it back soon after.
Why does that upset you? I just subscribed on the chance I might get them a little sooner....
Adam
<< <i>subscriptions say "price subject to change"
so I think were are going to get a price increase. >>
Last year they were $19.95, this year they are $21.95, already a 10% increase.
BTW, my previous post was all BS.
Box of 20
<< <i>There is NO LIMIT to the 2007 uncirculated Silver Eagles. >>
You are correct. But there was also no limit on the mintage of 2006-W silver eagles.
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<< <i>There is NO LIMIT to the 2007 uncirculated Silver Eagles. >>
There was also "no limit" on the 2006 silver, gold, and plat issues...