I like it, who cares what a TPC thinks....
ScarsdaleCoin
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you know if you like what ever the coin etc. is....who really cares what the tpg grades it or doesnt grade it....sorry but I buy the item not the plastic....time that you people learn enough about what you are buying to make your own decisions..... the last post about so called dollars is a perfect example.....I have sold to a collector who doesnt even know who pcgs is nor does he care....he enjoys the history of so called dollars and he wants an example of each....some of his are probably finest known, some are not so good...but to him they are all gems, he loves them all and could care less what they would grade....is he wrong? I think not...he is a collector....in my eyes a collector who is getting the best enjoyment from the hobby..... flame on all
Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
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<< <i>the last post about so called dollars is a perfect example.....I have sold to a collector who doesnt even know who pcgs is nor does he care.... >>
Your example is interesting but could the reason be that PCGS doesn't slab SCDs, NGC does? I noticed that your SCD page only has NGC slabbed SCDs. Do you have raw ones on your site or do you have a reason for not wanting to offer them raw?
In general I agree with you. I have a bunch of raw SCDs that I enjoy a lot. I'll probably hold off on slabbing them until it comes time to sell. From some SCDs, NGC slabs don't seem to matter too much but, for other ones, it seems to add a lot of market value. This can be seen in the prices realized for slabbed versions vs. raw ones.
I'm interested in the cins themselves.....
My key dates are not necessarily in choice condition, but they are abundently faked, and I like the peace of mind of authentication......
If a collector doesn't know who PCGS is, unless there are very extenuating circumstances, he can't be very well informed.
If he's not well informed I would suspect his fund of knowledge is lacking.
Buy the coin, not the plastic, but use the TPG as a tool. If used properly it's your friend not your enemy. A buyer spending mucho bucks on raw
coins without knowing what a TPG is a disaster story waiting to happen.
Bruce
<< <i>Your points are very well taken but on the flip side:
If a collector doesn't know who PCGS is, unless there are very extenuating circumstances, he can't be very well informed.
If he's not well informed I would suspect his fund of knowledge is lacking.
Buy the coin, not the plastic, but use the TPG as a tool. If used properly it's your friend not your enemy. A buyer spending mucho bucks on raw
coins without knowing what a TPG is a disaster story waiting to happen.
Bruce >>
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Agree with all of the comments.
<< <i>you know if you like what ever the coin etc. is....who really cares what the tpg grades it or doesnt grade it....sorry but I buy the item not the plastic....time that you people learn enough about what you are buying to make your own decisions..... the last post about so called dollars is a perfect example.....I have sold to a collector who doesnt even know who pcgs is nor does he care....he enjoys the history of so called dollars and he wants an example of each....some of his are probably finest known, some are not so good...but to him they are all gems, he loves them all and could care less what they would grade....is he wrong? I think not...he is a collector....in my eyes a collector who is getting the best enjoyment from the hobby..... flame on all >>
I bet every dealer wishes that all of their clients were like that
Yes, sharks can still roam free even with graded coins. However, some of the worst abuses such as knowingly selling altered dates and added mintmarks, or selling a coin as Gem Uncirculated, buying it back as AU, or taking AU coins, polishing them up and selling them as Gems.
In my opinion, the good old days before certification, weren't all that good. The current conditions, with all of the problems noted, are some of the best times the hobby has ever had, and the grading companies are a large part of that. Dealers, overall, are making more money than ever, collectors have better access to coins and information than ever.
<< <i>you know if you like what ever the coin etc. is....who really cares what the tpg grades it or doesnt grade it....sorry but I buy the item not the plastic....time that you people learn enough about what you are buying to make your own decisions..... the last post about so called dollars is a perfect example.....I have sold to a collector who doesnt even know who pcgs is nor does he care....he enjoys the history of so called dollars and he wants an example of each....some of his are probably finest known, some are not so good...but to him they are all gems, he loves them all and could care less what they would grade....is he wrong? I think not...he is a collector....in my eyes a collector who is getting the best enjoyment from the hobby..... flame on all >>
You are my hero.
What if this guy were buying AU bust dollars instead of SCD's?
Wouldn't a TPG's opinion be of some value to him? Fact is that a SCD much like CW tokens and colonials, are areas where a TPG's opinion doesn't rule. In many of these areas the fixation on grading is often not the last word.
There have been a number of coins I've liked that a TPG didn't.
In most instances those cost me considerably.
roadrunner
<< <i>I like it, who cares what a TPC thinks.... >>
This is a perfectly fine approach for anyone who 1) never plans to sell their coins, or 2) only plans to sell them to another collector who doesn't care what the TPGs think.