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on this 1795 Flowing Hair Dollar, Silver Plug, B-3. Sorry for the poor photo, the toning is almost exactly the same as this one http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=549882&highlight_key=y&keyword1=1795 flowing although it doesnt show in my picture. Wish I could get my camera to take pics like Russ.image I am thinking it is a VG-8 at best due to the wear on the reverse. I will greatly value any and all feedback. Thank you!!

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    Sorry I can't offer any grade opinions but someone will step up...


    Edited: to add that you may want to add the coin description to the title so that people know you aren't looking for help with a GW $ or something! image
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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    i guess a vg08
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    VG8
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  • First off, THANKS N8!!! Wasnt sure how to put the pics in the text. And thanks for the opinions so far, you guys are fast in response! I have lurked in here for a couple of weeks and certainly found it to be a wealth of info. I reall do appreciate your help and am looking forward to returning any help I can.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,751 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome aboard.
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  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    Welcome aboard. I would say VG as well.
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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image to the Forums, HKP2000! Enjoy!

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  • image ...looks VG to meimage
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  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    Welcome and i too would grade it at VG-8. I love the small eagle reverse!
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  • Rob85635Rob85635 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭
    Wow, nice coin. Welcome to the madness image
    Rob the Newbie
  • DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856
    Nice coin, I'd say about G-4. image
    aka Dan
  • Hey!! Thank you very much for the warm welcome!!!
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    Here's a Big FatMan Welcome to Ya!image


    I'll join the VG crowd.
  • Is this an unusual wear pattern for the reverse. What would cause it to wear that way. Strike?
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,751 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is this an unusual wear pattern for the reverse. What would cause it to wear that way. Strike? >>




    I think there are two issues here. The strike was strongest at the 8 O'Clock position
    on the obverse and the corresponding area on the reverse so these areas have a
    stronger strike. I don't have a lot of experience with this series but suspect there was
    another factor at work which caused heavier wear on the reverse. Perhaps the coin
    spent decades lying face up in a drawer or something along those lines.

    I find the coin fairly attractive and agree it's VG. It's a very strong VG absent the un-
    even wear and strike (nearly fine). In light of these it's still a VG.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    vg-7 due to reverse rims merging

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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice VG-8! Welcome to the forums!
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VG8 obverse, AG3 reverse. Because the obverse is stronger it would probably net grade as G4.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,751 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>VG8 obverse, AG3 reverse. Because the obverse is stronger it would probably net grade as G4. >>




    The reason I wouldn't grade it so lowly is that the total amount of wear just
    isn't that great. Really it could sneak in as a low grade F if there were the same
    amount of wear on a nicely struck coin. If it were a coin that is typically well made
    then I'd be more inclined to grade it lower. If it were a coin that is often found in
    nice circulated condition then I might grade it lower. If the amount of metal miss-
    ing from the reverse were a little greater I might grade it lower.

    To me it's just too nice to grade G, though I certainly understand how you might.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • Well, THANK YOU to everybody for your input. It truly is appreciated!! Cladking, thank you especially for the added information and thoughts. I currently have it in a Dansco album but am considering sending it in to PCGS for there opinion and attribution. I have been looking for more information on these silver plugged dollars. Really doesnt seem to be a whole lot out there. Would like to find out how many are known and in thier repective Bolender #'s. Does anyone know if PCGS keeps track of submitted coins by these variety numbers (ie...VAMs or Sheldon or Breen etc...) in there respective series?

    Thanks again for the GREAT welcome too!!!!
  • Early coinage often exhibits assymetrical wear patterns due to the technology of the time. Dies weren't always "square" with each other and would pinch one side while creating a weakness on the opposite side of the coin.

    Actually, well-centered, symmetrically struck Early American coinage is quite scarce.

    Garrow
  • Along with the pop reports that I mentioned in my previous post, does anyone here collect early dollars as thier "main" series or only series or by variety?
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Welcome aboard! I would guess vg as well, and think it's quite attractive...
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