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I have noticed that my local shop's inventory of key coins has really dropped lately (last year or so). The owner told me that most of their business is in gold bullion now. They rarely get a collection where there are key dates in any condition to sell. Has anyone else seen this trend at the local level?
Mark

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  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keys are always very hot, lots of people buying....not a lot of people selling em
    Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cycles... I have noticed that this moves in cycles... not sure why, but the flow surges and ebbs. I have not discerned a pattern, but have not been following this that long... I am sure it will have some reasonable explanation.. but yes, I have noticed it and have been trying to understand the dynamic behind it. Cheers, RickO
  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942
    I would guess a lot of the key dates get Ebayed soon after a coin shop gets them, can reach a much wider audience with Ebay than locally.
    One local shop owner told me he couldn't stay in business without ebay.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    last week i was in the shop helping out and a vest pocket dealer came in. conversation eventually got around to the 1932-S Washington he bought but wasn't sure of the MM. the dealer said he had one too and also wasn't sure about the MM on his coin. a comparison settled....................nothing, since both MM's were the same. either they were both fake or both genuine. my point; i only found out that either guy had the coins because i happened to be there when they discussed them. if you don't ask you may never know stuff is in a dealers inventory, and even when you do ask you may not know since stuff is often held.

    i guess it really depends on what you consider to be the keys and what series you're talking about. certain stuff that's always been hard to find is still that way while other stuff like 1909-S VDB Lincolns are surprisingly easy to locate. for me it's a double edged sword that cuts both ways. keys and nice coins are appearing like never before due to high prices while at the same time they seem to be dissappearing just as quickly. do a search at eBay and you'll find most of what we'd consider keys available while the truly rare(and i mean rare) stuff isn';t available and hardly ever is, even in a down-market.
  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942


    << <i>last week i was in the shop helping out and a vest pocket dealer came in. conversation eventually got around to the 1932-S Washington he bought but wasn't sure of the MM. the dealer said he had one too and also wasn't sure about the MM on his coin. a comparison settled....................nothing, since both MM's were the same. either they were both fake or both genuine. my point; i only found out that either guy had the coins because i happened to be there when they discussed them. if you don't ask you may never know stuff is in a dealers inventory, and even when you do ask you may not know since stuff is often held.

    i guess it really depends on what you consider to be the keys and what series you're talking about. certain stuff that's always been hard to find is still that way while other stuff like 1909-S VDB Lincolns are surprisingly easy to locate. for me it's a double edged sword that cuts both ways. keys and nice coins are appearing like never before due to high prices while at the same time they seem to be dissappearing just as quickly. do a search at eBay and you'll find most of what we'd consider keys available while the truly rare(and i mean rare) stuff isn';t available and hardly ever is, even in a down-market. >>




    Any decent size coin show will probably have a fairly wide variety of 1909-S VDB Lincoln cents available but try finding a decent VF or XF
    Barber quarter of any date. In this case "scarce or downright "rare" would carry more clout than "key date" as far as acutally finding
    what you are looking for.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    though that observation may be true, those aren't rare and aren't keys by the standard definition.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Collectors have become wise. They are no longer offering anything good to their local dealers because they know they can get more money elsewhere.

    The local dealers still get some material from the widows. A few weeks ago I was in a local shop when an older woman and her daughter came in. I was just exiting the store and they asked if I would help them carry in some coins from their car. The dealer and his assistant heard the conversation and nearly knocked me over as they rushed out to help the lady carry the coins in. I'm quite sure they didn't want to give me a chance to say something like, "Make sure you get more than one offer." I have no idea what the lady actually had for sale.
    All glory is fleeting.


  • << <i>i guess it really depends on what you consider to be the keys and what series you're talking about. certain stuff that's always been hard to find is still that way while other stuff like 1909-S VDB Lincolns are surprisingly easy to locate. for me it's a double edged sword that cuts both ways. keys and nice coins are appearing like never before due to high prices while at the same time they seem to be dissappearing just as quickly. do a search at eBay and you'll find most of what we'd consider keys available while the truly rare(and i mean rare) stuff isn';t available and hardly ever is, even in a down-market. >>



    Well said. I have a couple automatic searches on ebay and they almost never hit. And on the off chance of a match, the coin listed is some problem POS. Some coins are rare in terms of a popular series, like lincolns. And some coins are rare in absolute terms.
  • MJPHELANMJPHELAN Posts: 801 ✭✭✭
    An example of a key date he has not seen in over a year is the 1916-D dime. He used to have a decent inventory of various grades just a few years ago.
    Mark
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dunno... mine has a PCGS MS64 Hawaii quarter and a PCGS MS62 PL $20 Lib... he gets some nice things in from time to time.
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.

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