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Just the other day I showed you all 4 coins that I feel are accurately graded. With this in mind, I am somewhat perplexed by the following ......

but first.....

Remember this?

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We all pretty much agreed that it's a beautiful coin and after much discussion we finally agreed that the grade is in fact technically correct.

With this still fresh in our memories, using the coin shown above, what then would you all say this coin grades?
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  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    And, bearing these in mind...


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    What would you think the following grades, with ALL things being equal?

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    An exercise in screening coins for grading and open for discussion without malice or the need for flaming ANYONE.

    I'm STILL trying to get a handle on all this after all these years.
  • the 1946 is MS 64 and the 1952 S is also MS 64.. Now shock me and tell me the 1946 is MS 66...
  • JSssonJSsson Posts: 891
    I would say that an MS64 grade is appropriate for the 1946 quarter.
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    The 52-S with screaming luster and beautiful toning is a PCGS 63 while the 46 which is nowhere remotely close to the caliber of the 52-S is a PCGS 65. Huh!!? image

    The 55-D, 57-D and 62-D are all PCGS 65. They ALL blow the 46 away. Meanwhile the 50-S, that is of the same caliber as these other 3, is a PCGS 66. I must say that I am thorouhly confused by this!image
  • I am guessing they liked the strike on the 46...
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165


  • << <i>I don't know what to think. image >>



    Oh I think you do image
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    I'll take the 5th on that one. image


  • << <i>I'll take the 5th on that one. image >>


    Fair enough. I like the 5th as well sometimes.
  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    I think I would have to see all these coins in person in order to agree/disagree with the PCGs assigned grades..


    Come pick me up boomie baby....
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Many times I don't agree with the grades on many series that the TPG's assign, Washington's included. The consistency with marks, strike, eye appeal, and luster varies widely. It's more the TPG's problem than yours. We get to look at dozens of say MS65's and pick out the one piece that looks stone-cold MS66. The difference between MS64.7 and MS65.0 or MS65.7 and MS66.0 is miniscule.
    There will be times when they are lumped together, and other times they'll be separated. The same anomoly exists in most other series as well. And once that low end coin gets the bump, it remains in that holder forever...or until an across the series 1 pt bump occurs over many years.

    If the TPG's graded with 95-100% accuracy there would be very little opportunity for collectors to cherry pick dealers.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good morning Boom, and Happy Easter Sunday...
    speaking of Sunday, what a glorious day... er, I mean, COIN or two that you've posted.

    I'm mostly writing because this thread might help professional graders/ coin dealers/ serious collectors and novices alike....all understand that it isn't just because of a coin's looks or strike that it grades high or low. We also must consider things like "POPULATIONS", "DIES", WEAK STRIKES, and EYE APPEAL...etc.... Then, consider the graders who see them. Of the hundreds of thousands of coins being submitted, sometimes a few fall through the cracks. (I don't know the retention rate of this occupation).
    No one is perfect and neither is any system. I don't know all the ins and outs of the grading room or the politics of such, but...

    These are really nice Mint State coins you've opened the thread with. Somewhere between MS63 and MS66, collectively image.


    Joe


    p.s. this is mostly for the bump ! Great attempt at open dialogue.
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Mornin' everyone & a Happy Easter to you all.

    I sure hope this thread helps SOMEONE to understand.

    Lu, Happy Easter to you to Doll. I'd be more than happy to drop by and pick you up.

    You have a special place in my heart.

    Now ..... off to Easter Services.

    Christ is Risen!

    Till later, make of this what you will but as stated, I started it for learning purposes. image

    Mornin' Joe. image

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