*the $20 Wells Fargo hoard- where did it come from??? and who was in on it? and why don't people talk about this marketing scheme/scam in public? Too many big players involved?
How many gold coins were hidden in old homes around 1933 and are yet undiscovered ?
It's not top ten, but it's something I've often pondered since the stock market crash of 1929 and subsequent actions of our government with gold in 1933 til ??? 1986 ? correct me if I'm wrong.
No doubt the missing issues top everyone's list: 1873-S dollars, 1895 business strike dollars, 1841-O half eagles ... Did they ever exist? Where did they go? We have all fantasized about finding one of these ...
Then the mysterious issues that are excessively rare ... the strawberry leaf cent, the 1853-O no arrows half, the 1797 16 stars half eagle, the 1822 half eagle, the 1849 double eagle ... are there more? What is the story behind these?
There are the pattern questions: the 1964-D Peace dollars, the mystery of the (18) alleged but non-existent "original" J-58 Gobrechts (name below base) in the correct Die Alignment I ... and many more pattern questions ...
Then there are the illegitimate issues: 1894-S dime, 1913 nickel, 1885 trade dollars ... how did they really come into being?
And then there is the infamous missing cornerstone ... with modern technology, why can't it be located ?? should be possible to do ... just think of those 1870-S issues hiding within !!
These are the issues of interest to collectors ... i.e., the question that pertain to coins themselves ... but in terms of history, personalities, etc., there is so much more to be asked. I would love to know more about the shenanigans of the "midnight minters" from the 1850's to the 1870's ... what a racket there was in Philadelphia !!!
Then there are the illegitimate issues: 1894-S dime, 1913 nickel, 1885 trade dollars ... how did they really come into being?
1894-S dimes were correctly reported in mint production records so they do not fit in the same category as the other two coins. The difficulty for the dimes is in trying to learn why only 24 were struck. There have been several books and research articles (Kevin Flynn's book, Coin World articles) but none of the explanations seems satisfactory.
<< <i>Then there are the illegitimate issues: 1894-S dime, 1913 nickel, 1885 trade dollars ... how did they really come into being?
1894-S dimes were correctly reported in mint production records so they do not fit in the same category as the other two coins. The difficulty for the dimes is in trying to learn why only 24 were struck. There have been several books and research articles (Kevin Flynn's book, Coin World articles) but none of the explanations seems satisfactory. >>
What is your opinion on the subject of 94-S dimes?
I think it's obvious that the 94-S dimes were created as a rarity by the mint director for the sole purpose of having a rare coin to pass out to his friends and family. None entered the normal channels of commerce except when his daughter spent one he gave her to buy ice cream.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>I think it's obvious that the 94-S dimes were created as a rarity by the mint director for the sole purpose of having a rare coin to pass out to his friends and family. None entered the normal channels of commerce except when his daughter spent one he gave her to buy ice cream. >>
But there are 2 circulated 1894-S dimes, one Good and one AG!
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
Who created the Flying Eagle Cent mule clashes in 1857? I read it may have been the night watchman, but is this a fact? Also, has an 1857 $20 Liberty clashed with a F.E. cent obverse been found, or an 1857 Seated Half/F.E obverse clash? These may all have answers, but if they do, I haven't heard them, which makes them a mystery to me!
--Christian
You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
<< <i>I think it's obvious that the 94-S dimes were created as a rarity by the mint director for the sole purpose of having a rare coin to pass out to his friends and family. None entered the normal channels of commerce except when his daughter spent one he gave her to buy ice cream. >>
True. But how exactly would a mintage of 24 coins enter the normal channel of commerce? About the only way would be for Mint personnel to buy them for $2.40 and proceed to spend them all.
<< <i>Who created the Flying Eagle Cent mule clashes in 1857? I read it may have been the night watchman, but is this a fact? Also, has an 1857 $20 Liberty clashed with a F.E. cent obverse been found, or an 1857 Seated Half/F.E obverse clash? These may all have answers, but if they do, I haven't heard them, which makes them a mystery to me! >>
And for that matter, the 'two headed' 1859 IHC. I wonder if these were done by the same person.
<< <i>I think it's obvious that the 94-S dimes were created as a rarity by the mint director for the sole purpose of having a rare coin to pass out to his friends and family. None entered the normal channels of commerce except when his daughter spent one he gave her to buy ice cream. >>
True. But how exactly would a mintage of 24 coins enter the normal channel of commerce? About the only way would be for Mint personnel to buy them for $2.40 and proceed to spend them all. >>
That was my point. They were obviously specially made by the mint director to be used as gifts for friends and family since he must have known he was creating a rarity.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Concerning the 1894-S dimes, the only opinion I have is that the evidence shows they were properly reported and accounted for in available mint documents. As to why they were struck - there are many theories and little firm evidence.
The 1913 Liberty nickel and 1885 Trade dollar simply exist, and we know almost nothing about their origins.
Ah, but you see how much controversy the mere mention of those 1894-S dimes stirs up? The i's may have been dotted and the t's crossed, but I shall continue to consider them illegitimate, as they were clearly produced for personal gain by someone who was abusing his position. Either way, they are certainly a candidate for the top ten list ...
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<< <i>Re: 1900-O/CC. Not on anyone's list so far, but progress is being made on this. Check your hobby publications in about 6 to 8 months. >>
Russ, NCNE
It's not top ten, but it's something I've often pondered since the stock market crash of 1929 and subsequent actions of our government with gold in 1933 til ??? 1986 ? correct me if I'm wrong.
How about this???? Right before our eyes.
Then the mysterious issues that are excessively rare ... the strawberry leaf cent, the 1853-O no arrows half, the 1797 16 stars half eagle, the 1822 half eagle, the 1849 double eagle ... are there more? What is the story behind these?
There are the pattern questions: the 1964-D Peace dollars, the mystery of the (18) alleged but non-existent "original" J-58 Gobrechts (name below base) in the correct Die Alignment I ... and many more pattern questions ...
Then there are the illegitimate issues: 1894-S dime, 1913 nickel, 1885 trade dollars ... how did they really come into being?
And then there is the infamous missing cornerstone ... with modern technology, why can't it be located ?? should be possible to do ... just think of those 1870-S issues hiding within !!
These are the issues of interest to collectors ... i.e., the question that pertain to coins themselves ... but in terms of history, personalities, etc., there is so much more to be asked. I would love to know more about the shenanigans of the "midnight minters" from the 1850's to the 1870's ... what a racket there was in Philadelphia !!!
Sunnywood
Sunnywood's Rainbow-Toned Morgans (Retired)
Sunnywood's Barber Quarters (Retired)
1894-S dimes were correctly reported in mint production records so they do not fit in the same category as the other two coins. The difficulty for the dimes is in trying to learn why only 24 were struck. There have been several books and research articles (Kevin Flynn's book, Coin World articles) but none of the explanations seems satisfactory.
<< <i>Then there are the illegitimate issues: 1894-S dime, 1913 nickel, 1885 trade dollars ... how did they really come into being?
1894-S dimes were correctly reported in mint production records so they do not fit in the same category as the other two coins. The difficulty for the dimes is in trying to learn why only 24 were struck. There have been several books and research articles (Kevin Flynn's book, Coin World articles) but none of the explanations seems satisfactory. >>
What is your opinion on the subject of 94-S dimes?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>I think it's obvious that the 94-S dimes were created as a rarity by the mint director for the sole purpose of having a rare coin to pass out to his friends and family. None entered the normal channels of commerce except when his daughter spent one he gave her to buy ice cream. >>
But there are 2 circulated 1894-S dimes, one Good and one AG!
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
?????
--Christian
<< <i>I think it's obvious that the 94-S dimes were created as a rarity by the mint director for the sole purpose of having a rare coin to pass out to his friends and family. None entered the normal channels of commerce except when his daughter spent one he gave her to buy ice cream. >>
True. But how exactly would a mintage of 24 coins enter the normal channel of commerce? About the only way would be for Mint personnel to buy them for $2.40 and proceed to spend them all.
<< <i>Who created the Flying Eagle Cent mule clashes in 1857? I read it may have been the night watchman, but is this a fact? Also, has an 1857 $20 Liberty clashed with a F.E. cent obverse been found, or an 1857 Seated Half/F.E obverse clash? These may all have answers, but if they do, I haven't heard them, which makes them a mystery to me! >>
And for that matter, the 'two headed' 1859 IHC. I wonder if these were done by the same person.
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<< <i>I think it's obvious that the 94-S dimes were created as a rarity by the mint director for the sole purpose of having a rare coin to pass out to his friends and family. None entered the normal channels of commerce except when his daughter spent one he gave her to buy ice cream. >>
True. But how exactly would a mintage of 24 coins enter the normal channel of commerce? About the only way would be for Mint personnel to buy them for $2.40 and proceed to spend them all. >>
That was my point. They were obviously specially made by the mint director to be used as gifts for friends and family since he must have known he was creating a rarity.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Concerning the 1894-S dimes, the only opinion I have is that the evidence shows they were properly reported and accounted for in available mint documents. As to why they were struck - there are many theories and little firm evidence.
The 1913 Liberty nickel and 1885 Trade dollar simply exist, and we know almost nothing about their origins.
Sunnywood
Sunnywood's Rainbow-Toned Morgans (Retired)
Sunnywood's Barber Quarters (Retired)
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<< <i>What ever happened to Don Taxay and why did he completely disappear from the hobby?
Also, why was Consuela REALLY fired?
Longacre discovered Spanish annotations in his favorite QDB books, correcting mistakes, updating pedigree info, adding obscure bibliographic references, stuff like that. >>
<< <i>What St Guru has in his pocket! >>
Easy, Xpipes hand!!!
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<< <i>What St Guru has in his pocket! >>
Easy, Xpipes hand!!! >>