Wisconsin extra leaf scam?

twodrhrdtp · March 24, 2007 4:02AM

Is it me or has this roll been tampered with. Did someone open the roll and stick a low leaf in the end to sell giving false hopes of an unopened roll of errors. I cant even say that the coin isnt AU by the pics.

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mrpaseo · March 24, 2007 4:04AM

Hmmm, I'm no one in the roll issue but that's what it looks like to me.

I don't gamble with rolls though,
Ray

pitboss · March 24, 2007 4:54AM

Don't buy those things. They are all a rip off.

twodrhrdtp · March 24, 2007 4:58AM

I wouldnt buy this. I was just looking around getting an idea what they are selling for since I have a few of them and ran accross this auction

Kaelasdad · March 24, 2007 5:10AM

I have seen better fakes, this screams scam, unless it sells for $10.

thezookrew · March 24, 2007 5:35AM

OK, looks like a legitimate low leaf that has been in circulation for a while.....OR the roll was thrown against a rough stone wall just before the picture was taken. I found a bunch of these in rolls back in 2005 and NONE of them looked that beaten up (although I did find a few on on the end of the rolls. But if there is one on the end, so you KNOW there is the possibility of more WHY would you want to sell it. That is where the greed and gullibility of the human race kicks in!!

Perry

tahoe98 · March 25, 2007 5:27AM

check the side of the roll for writing, something like, "approved by major tpg" before you purchase.

tahoe98

Russ · March 25, 2007 5:30AM

Ah, but he's a

. It must be okay.

Russ, NCNE

CaptHenway · March 25, 2007 6:34AM

I'd say it was the other end that was opened and recrimped.
TD

morgansforever · March 25, 2007 6:55AM

Way to late to be discovering end quarters with extra leaves. You have to assume every 04D WI roll has been searched.

The roll looks funny as well, possibly tampered with??

morgansforever · March 25, 2007 7:01AM

I have used this machine before, nice tight rolls.

rolling machine

GoldenEyeNumismatics · March 25, 2007 7:08AM

certainly a scam! Where'd you find this? Fleabay?

Hoodlatch · March 25, 2007 7:17AM

I sent a question to the seller, asking why he wouldn't open the roll, being there could more low leaf examples, and it would profit him to do so.
Actually, I'm sure it's a rip off. and yes, that end roll coin is nowhere near an original bank rolled coin.

Hoodlatch · March 26, 2007 5:00AM

$352.00 now, with 20 some odd minutes to go!

mysterycoinman · April 3, 2007 9:36AM

Could these answers possibly help?

1) He bought a few of these rolls last year ... and they all looked plain ugly! As everyone has agreed by now .... probably a stuffed AU low w/shoty crimp job.
2) More (real) Arizona original BU error showing rolls do still exist!
3) Texas was not aware of these coins as fast as AZ was and they had arrived after AZ got their major supply first ... reason you see more raw AU's popping up still in TX now.
AZ basically cleaned house.
4) Quite a few lucky Texans did find high gem BU varieties.
5) Most of these coins were found in AZ handsdown ... TX however did have a decent supply but not nearly the amount AZ did.
6) Missouri also had findings! - mainly all Lows with some highs mixed in.
7) Fact: The fat leaf will not be graded by PCGS nor NGC .. only ANACS has labeled and holdered them as "Sunken Dies" or plain english basically - worn-out, over-used dies.
8) There is another WI-D strange coin with an impression on the right of the corn husk/cheese wedge with a curve-like looking "down leaf" BUT not the same size as the high or Lows (Mystery)
and there are much more scare than ANY of the others Wisconsin's made.

Oh - can anyone tell me how those "so-called" 100+ and still counting DDO/DDR Minnesota extra trees are doing lately vs. the WI leaf varieties? Just curious... thanks

wayneherndon · April 3, 2007 10:17AM

If I had to say one way or the other, I'd say that end was machine crimped and not resealed. Of course that doesn't eliminate the possibility that the other end was opened and resealed or that someone with a wrapping machine made up the roll.

WH

ricko · April 3, 2007 10:31AM

Tampered with and a poor - very poor attempt at resealing.. probably the only extra leaf in the roll. Cheers, RickO

HIGHLOWLEAVES · April 3, 2007 1:03PM

MYSTERYCOINMAN, I respectfully disagree with some of your assumptions concerning the Wisconsin Extra Leaf Statehood Quarter Findings.

First, I lived the Texas Discovery of these rare variety Quarters beginning in January, 2005. Arizonia did not find the vast majority of leaf quarters vs. the Great State Of Texas !! Try to purchase a single High Leaf from a AZ dealer over the last 28 months !! In AZ, the lows showed up 2 and 3 times as often as did the High Leaf quarter. The Texas Find resulted in a 50/50 split . One box that I searched had 9 Highs to 2 Lows.

Why were several AZ dealers and coin magazine advertisers calling San Antonio, Tx often in 2005 to acquire these gem coins?

Many of the UNC and used quarters that are on Ebay today are being offered by people from San Antonio/ Austin, Tx area and not AZ.

I am aware of a box of unsearched Wisconsin D Quarters that a person in Missouri received. That person said that he found over 120 extra leaf quarters in the box and the mix was 50/50. I sold him the famous box South Texas Box in February, 2005 !!

I spoke to a person who said that they had in their possession several boxes of Wisconsin quarters before Thanksgiving, 2004 and that those boxes had a high yeild of Extra Leaf Quarters. That was what I was told. This is not to take anything away from Bob Ford in AZ. Bob did all of us a huge favor by presenting his find to Rob at Old Pueblo Coins on December 11, 2004.

I think that Rick Snow's Wisconsin Extra Leaf Quarter Book that will be published sometime in the future will discuss many of the Arizonia and Texas quarter discoveries. I can not speak with any knowledge about the Missouri quarters. I do know of a dealer in MO. that had purchased some rolls of Wisconsin D Quarters at a MO. coin show in early 2005 that contained primarily the low Leaf coins. I do not know where the coin show dealer was from.

The fact that there is still much to know and understand about these two rare coin varieties makes them that much more interesting !!

Have a great day collecting coins !! Mark.

Wisconsin extra leaf scam?

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