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If you got the following grades - would you be happy?

1761 Austria, Salzburg- Thaler [XF 45]
1865 Brazil, 2000 Reis [AU50 Details (cleaned)]
1826 Mexico, Zacatecas 8 Reales [VF30 Details (corroded)]
1830 Mexico, Mexico City, 8 Reales [XF40 Details (cleaned)]
1842 Mexico, Zacatecas 8 Reales Type I [AU53]

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 18,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I thought they were all problem free coins before I sent them in, I would not be happy. If they met my expectations, I would be happy.

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    WorldTypeSetWorldTypeSet Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭✭
    I'll try one ...

    1830 **x*c*, **x*c* C**y, 8 *e***s [XF40 Details (cleaned)]
    1830 Mexico, Mexico City, 8 Reales
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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I should've been more specific - the first one to properly fill-in ALL of the blanks image But you got that one, Paul. I suspected that 1830 of being cleaned, but this coin is scarce in grades above VF, so I took a chance...
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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If I thought they were all problem free coins before I sent them in, I would not be happy. If they met my expectations, I would be happy. >>



    Don, the 1865 and 1830 were suspects before I sent them in, but 1826 was a low blow image
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 18,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know the first one, fourth, and fifth ones without using my Krause. Now for the difficult ones. Does the second one have a date of 1865B? Or is the B part of the country name?

    Got the third one also. The second is stumping me.

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    WorldTypeSetWorldTypeSet Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭✭
    I should've been more specific - the first one to properly fill-in ALL of the blanks

    Your original instructions are clear. That's the only one I can identify. Canadian nickels are my thing, so that makes me a darksider (greysider) by default, but I don't have a good knowledge of world coins. I suppose I could search for the answers, but I'll leave that to someone else.

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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I know the first one, fourth, and fifth ones without using my Krause. Now for the difficult ones. Does the second one have a date of 1865B? Or is the B part of the country name?

    Got the third one also. The second is stumping me. >>



    B is the first letter in the name of the Country image
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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I should've been more specific - the first one to properly fill-in ALL of the blanks

    Your original instructions are clear. That's the only one I can identify. Canadian nickels are my thing, so that makes me a darksider (greysider) by default, but I don't have a good knowledge of world coins. I suppose I could search for the answers, but I'll leave that to someone else. >>



    It's understandable, Paul. I am currently living in Toronto and have no idea why I'm not using this opportunity to learn more about Canadian coinage... It's everywhere! image
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    newsmannewsman Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭
    1761 Austria, Salzburg - Thaler [XF 45]
    1865 Brazil, 2000 Reis [AU50 Details (cleaned)]
    1826 Mexico, Zacatecas 8 Reales [VF30 Details (corroded)]
    1830 Mexico, Mexico City, 8 Reales [XF40 Details (cleaned)]
    1842 Mexico, Zacatecas 8 Reales Type I [AU53]
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 18,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DANG! Brazil!image

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    newsmannewsman Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭


    << <i>DANG! Brazil!image >>



    That was the only one I was sure of. And it's not an uncommon grade for those coins -- I wouldn't be happy, but I wouldn't be surprised either.
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hard to say without seeing them in hand...

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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1761 Austria, Salzburg - Thaler [XF 45]
    1865 Brazil, 2000 Reis [AU50 Details (cleaned)]
    1826 Mexico, Zacatecas 8 Reales [VF30 Details (corroded)]
    1830 Mexico, Mexico City, 8 Reales [XF40 Details (cleaned)]
    1842 Mexico, Zacatecas 8 Reales Type I [AU53] >>



    Congrats, Newsman! PM me your address and I'll send a little something-something image

    I am pretty excited about the 1842 Type I (attributed), since these were struck early in the year, before the die style changed and normally found in VF-XF with numerous planchet flaws. The 1826 was a disappointment - ANACS couldn't attribe the variety (un-listed in Resplandores), but I guess authentication is just as good. Corrosions put a damper on the grade, though...
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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Found my old picture of the 1826. It's a "small star before 8R" variety:

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    CIVITASCIVITAS Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭
    An 1826 Zs 8R probably starts out "corroded". image They were exceptionally hard on that coin.
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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>An 1826 Zs 8R probably starts out "corroded". image They were exceptionally hard on that coin. >>



    image
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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From my research I learned that there were a few VERY well made 1826 Zs die pairs made in New England - this could be a new one (the small star and Go-type pad on the cactus indicate that different punches were used to create this die). At some point, I would like to add a full-feathered breast pre-1842 Zacatecas 8 Reales to my collection, but it will be tough, since flatness of the breast is simply a function of how the press worked (it was manual and the pressure needed to fully develope the strike was rarely there).

    I'm fascinated by these coins image
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    dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭


    << <i>From my research I learned that there were a few VERY well made 1826 Zs die pairs made in New England - this could be a new one (the small star and Go-type pad on the cactus indicate that different punches were used to create this die). At some point, I would like to add a full-feathered breast pre-1842 Zacatecas 8 Reales to my collection, but it will be tough, since flatness of the breast is simply a function of how the press worked (it was manual and the pressure needed to fully develope the strike was rarely there).

    I'm fascinated by these coins image >>



    1761 A****a, S**z**** - T****e* [XF 45]
    1865 B*****, 20** **is [AU50 Details (cleaned)]
    1826 **x*c*, Z****e**s 8 *e***s [VF30 Details (corroded)]
    1830 **x*c*, **x*c* C**y, 8 *e***s [XF40 Details (cleaned)]
    1842 **x*c*, Z****e**s 8 *e***s Ty** I [AU53]

    1761 Austria, Salzburg - Thaler [XF 45]
    1865 Brazil, 2000 Reis [AU50 Details (cleaned)]
    1826 Mexico, Zacatecas 8 Reales [VF30 Details (corroded)]
    1830 Mexico, Mexico City, 8 Reales [XF40 Details (cleaned)]
    1842 Mexico, Zacatecas 8 Reales Type I [AU53]
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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A little too late, Doran image Newsman beat you to it. I should probably edit the original message now...
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have to agree with Josh on the 1826... while the coin may not be perfect it is well above what is normally encountered for this date...

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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Had a chance to image the Thaler:

    image

    Now that I'm looking at it up-close through the lens - it looks more cleaned than the 1826 Zacatecas piece... <sigh> There are also traces of a die clash on both sides of the coin, most pronounced at 11 o'clock on the reverse (or is it obverse? The one with the year on it)
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