Spock was around in 1924!

DNADave · March 28, 2007 2:55AM

in spirit anyhow.

Regulated · March 28, 2007 2:57AM

I wonder whether Gene Roddenberry picked the phrase up there...

cladking · March 28, 2007 3:00AM

Interesting.

Looks like the thing got too close to the warp core though.

Baley · March 28, 2007 3:43AM

did you ever see the one with the parallel universe, and Spock had a beard?

some "hobo" evidently did

TwoSides2aCoin · March 28, 2007 3:45AM

I knew a Hairy Carpenter once...

Whatever happened to DOG97 ?

Michigan · March 28, 2007 3:54AM

I believe there is also a town called "Vulcan" in Canada, maybe Alberta or Manitoba, somewhere in
the west.

BlindedByEgo · March 28, 2007 3:56AM

Fascinating.

ricko · March 28, 2007 3:56AM

Dog97 was posting for a while a couple months back... then went silent again... Cheers, RickO

AngryTurtle · March 28, 2007 4:00AM

Didja ever see the Star Trek where they went back in time and ran into Al Capone in Chicago? That must have been when they made this token!

(What state is it from?)

Michigan · March 28, 2007 4:03AM

<< Didja ever see the Star Trek where they went back in time and ran into Al Capone in Chicago? That must have been when they made this token!

(What state is it from?) >>

That was a good episode but the best time travel one they did was "City on the edge of forever"

CaptHenway · March 28, 2007 4:04AM

<< I wonder whether Gene Roddenberry picked the phrase up there... >>

He's dead, Jim!

BobaFett72 · March 28, 2007 4:36AM

"Didja ever see the Star Trek where they went back in time and ran into Al Capone in Chicago"

I thought that they found an alternate universe/ reality where history was slightly different and the whole planet was run by the mafia.

cladking · March 28, 2007 4:45AM

<< "Didja ever see the Star Trek where they went back in time and ran into Al Capone in Chicago"

I thought that they found an alternate universe/ reality where history was slightly different and the whole planet was run by the mafia. >>

I think so.

The one on Earth was where they had to prevent Bones from saving the life of a woman in the 1930's whose actions would have led to a German victory in WWII. They used "Arcon?" technology if memory serves.

It's just a little embarrassing to know this.

DNADave · March 28, 2007 4:49AM

<< Didja ever see the Star Trek where they went back in time and ran into Al Capone in Chicago? That must have been when they made this token!

(What state is it from?) >>

West Virginia......(not mine)

ONETHREE · March 28, 2007 5:05AM

Live Long and Prosper Traditional Jewish Benediction (according to this website)

Wikipedia Link

cladking · March 28, 2007 5:07AM

<< 

<< Didja ever see the Star Trek where they went back in time and ran into Al Capone in Chicago? That must have been when they made this token!

(What state is it from?) >>

West Virginia......(not mine) >>

On Voyager it was revealed that West Virginia was the supposed site
of first contact between Earth and Vulcan. Coincidence? I think not.

ONETHREE · March 28, 2007 5:24AM

In the movie First Contact human and vulcans hooked up in central Montana.

Have we gone OT enough yet?

Darth5oh · March 28, 2007 5:27AM

<< 
The one on Earth was where they had to prevent Bones from saving the life of a woman in the 1930's whose actions would have led to a German victory in WWII. >>

Her name was... Edith Keeler.

cladking · March 28, 2007 5:52AM

<< In the movie First Contact human and vulcans hooked up in central Montana.

Have we gone OT enough yet? >>

Time travel will have to have been so complicated. Even the language to desribe it needed more verb tenses.

If you went back to the 1950's before you go back to the 1930's which will have been coming first, the chicken or the egg?

Cam40 · March 28, 2007 6:07AM

anyone up for a game of fizzbin?

CaptHenway · March 28, 2007 6:25AM

What are the odds of drawing to a Royal FizzBin?

ONETHREE · March 28, 2007 6:28AM

<< 

<< In the movie First Contact human and vulcans hooked up in central Montana.

Have we gone OT enough yet? >>

Time travel will have to have been so complicated. Even the language to desribe it needed more verb tenses.

If you went back to the 1950's before you go back to the 1930's which will have been coming first, the chicken or the egg? >>

It is a conundrum.

RichieURich · March 28, 2007 7:40AM

Great thread!

CarsonCityGold · March 28, 2007 7:50AM

<< The one on Earth was where they had to prevent Bones from saving the life of a woman in the 1930's whose actions would have led to a German victory in WWII. >>

<< Her name was... Edith Keeler. >>

Played by Joan Collins who later went on to fame playing Alexis Carrington on Dynasty.

notlogical · March 28, 2007 11:40PM

ccr · March 29, 2007 12:03AM

<< 

<< Didja ever see the Star Trek where they went back in time and ran into Al Capone in Chicago? That must have been when they made this token!

(What state is it from?) >>

That was a good episode but the best time travel one they did was "City on the edge of forever" >>

Yeah, that too was one of the best. McCoy accidentally gave himself too much cortisone and went down to a planet with a time machine. He jumped in and later Spock and Kirk tried to jump in roughly where/when McCoy did. They jumped in a few days early. When McCoy did reappear, he called over to some guy, who was pilfering a bottle of milk, and said " Hey you! What planet is this!? "

I wonder if the saying on that button was the inspiration for Spocks greeting. It`s possible.

cladking · March 29, 2007 12:42AM

<<

>>

'Bout time you showed up.

Coxe · March 29, 2007 3:26AM

It was not from Roddenberry. Leonard Nimoy brought it to the table for the show. It is the English translation of a line in the Birkat Cohanim used in Jewish holiday services. The Cohens (direct patrilinear descendants of Aaron, brother of Moses, with no improper marriages in their history) perform this blessing on the congregation. It is also noteworthy that they form their hands in the same way as Spock's signature formation, except that it is done with both hands with thumb touching thumb and forefinger touching forefinger. There is a ridiculous urban myth that a test of a true Cohen is the ability to spread his fingers as such. Many, many people of every ethnic background can do that. Just go to any trekkie convention and see.

cladking · March 29, 2007 6:40AM

Coxe; Fascinating. Thanks for the info.

ONETHREE · March 29, 2007 6:44AM

"except that it is done with both hands with thumb touching thumb and forefinger touching forefinger."

Like this. Well sort of. Wikipedia. Huh.

Coxe · March 29, 2007 8:58AM

There are slight variations in the minhagim. Some also spread the thumbs and do the finger touching to form a triangle with the thumbs as a base with the smallest pairs of fingers vertical as your photo shows. Not sure of the antiquity of each but I might guess that the triangle might predate and was dropped because of the potential allusion to a triune deity (trinity). The prostration in prayer (except during High Holydays) was similarly dropped and replaced with simple bending of the knees to not be confused with Muslims who likely adopted the practice from the Jewish tribe of Banu Quraiza or others in Yathrib in the 7th century.

JRocco · March 29, 2007 9:14AM

<< 

<< 

<< Didja ever see the Star Trek where they went back in time and ran into Al Capone in Chicago? That must have been when they made this token!

(What state is it from?) >>

West Virginia......(not mine) >>

On Voyager it was revealed that West Virginia was the supposed site
of first contact between Earth and Vulcan. Coincidence? I think not. >>

Maybe its all true....

Maybe Star Trek is really real right now--just happening somewhere else.

Double helix...double universe stuff...???

Matter...anti-matter.........????

Classics....Modern crap......??????

sorry Sam---I couldn't resist....

cladking · March 29, 2007 10:28AM

The net connects you straight to bizzaro world too, eh?

JRocco · March 29, 2007 10:35AM

<< The net connects you straight to bizzaro world too, eh?

>>

The best part of it is that this thread made me remember how much I loved that show (the original) when it first aired, before re-runs.
Star Trek and earlier-----Lost in Space (Danger-Danger Will Robinson

)

Yea---showing our age.

Michigan · March 29, 2007 11:20AM

<< 

<< The net connects you straight to bizzaro world too, eh?

>>

The best part of it is that this thread made me remember how much I loved that show (the original) when it first aired, before re-runs.
Star Trek and earlier-----Lost in Space (Danger-Danger Will Robinson

)

Yea---showing our age. >>

The cable network "TV Land" has two episodes of the old original Star Trek series every weekday from 5-7 AM. I'm an early riser at around 4:30 AM so it is fun to take a break from the news for some good old Sci Fi.

Writersblock · March 30, 2007 1:22AM

<< << Didja ever see the Star Trek where they went back in time and ran into Al Capone in Chicago? That must have been when they made this token! >>

A Piece of the Action

It did not involve time travel or an alternate universe. It was a result of cross culture contamination from a ship that had visited the planet a hundred years earlier before the Prime Directive of "no interference with a pre-warp flight culture" had been put in place. The earlier ship had "Wowed" them with their technology, but when they left they left behind a book on the Gangs of Chicago in the 1930's. The citizen of the planet seized upon this as the "blueprint model" for their society in the hopes of developing the same type of technology the people from the "Feds" (Federation) had. (And they didn't meet Al Capone.)

<< What are the odds of drawing to a Royal FizzBin? >>

"I've never computed them."

"Well I can assure you they are astronomical"

<< The best part of it is that this thread made me remember how much I loved that show (the original) when it first aired, before re-runs.
Star Trek and earlier-----Lost in Space (Danger-Danger Will Robinson ). >>

Gene Roddenberry pitched Star Trek to CBS, they turned him down saying they had an idea of their own for a space program that they liked better. That idea was Lost in Space.

Unashamed Trekkie since 1966.
Sugested reading The Making of Star Trek by Stephen E Whitfield

ONETHREE · March 30, 2007 1:34AM

<< There are slight variations in the minhagim. Some also spread the thumbs and do the finger touching to form a triangle with the thumbs as a base with the smallest pairs of fingers vertical as your photo shows. Not sure of the antiquity of each but I might guess that the triangle might predate and was dropped because of the potential allusion to a triune deity (trinity). The prostration in prayer (except during High Holydays) was similarly dropped and replaced with simple bending of the knees to not be confused with Muslims who likely adopted the practice from the Jewish tribe of Banu Quraiza or others in Yathrib in the 7th century. >>

Thanks for enlightening us. I am always fascinated by religious and cultural traditions.

Also, I will freely admit to being a star trek nerd. I believe I have seen every episode of all of the star trek incarnations. I love the subtle (and not so subtle) star trek references on this board. Wolf 359: the final fall-back position of the battle with the Borg; Ferengi: a race which encourages greed; and many others.

P.S. the Royal Fizzbin reference is a gem. That is diggin deep. You may not know that it was referred to later on Deep Space Nine by the Ferengi. Much like taking someone snipe hunting.

Spock was around in 1924!

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