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Have any of you built a secrect compartment or room?
I don't mean pulling out the bottom drawer of a dresser. I mean a carefully thought out and engineered secret panel, hidey hole, or room to stash valuables?
I won't say if I have, I won't say if I haven't!!
I won't say if I have, I won't say if I haven't!!
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Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
It only cost $700 and if a burglar hauls it away, he earned it.
JT
I collect all 20th century series except gold including those series that ended there.
<< <i>and if a burglar hauls it away, he earned it. >>
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As for me, no. Most are in the banks safe deposit vaults. Only cheap stuff around here. I'd like a garage like in the old Green Hornet programs where your entire car flips upside down. Better yet how about a basement like Batman's?
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<< <i>Is it a secret bank? >>
The trick is to get a safe deposit box at a tiny bank that doesn't have any branches within, say, 25 miles of your house, and that you have no other relationship with. That way if the worst happens, a search by certain agencies won't find it. They will first check the banks where you have accounts, and if no box turns up, they'll check other banks in the immediate area, then quit. Without any reason to keep looking (no receipts from that distant bank turn up in your records), it's a rudimentary search.
If I was going to keep stuff at home, no matter how well hidden, I'd want to leave some stuff out just in case someone decides to destroy the place looking. Better to sacrifice a bunch of $8 slabs than to have the house torn up fruitlessly.
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
You could fit the contents of 20 good size safe deposit boxes in that hole, with space left over!
When they sold the house and moved, they weren't sure if they should tell the new owner about the hiding place...and they didn't...because they figured that the new owner would think they were oddballs. So one day, when the new owners remodel, they're going to find this strange large void, with magnets, batteries, an electronic release mechanism, and a manual pull lever...and probably wonder what secret satanic rituals were going on in their house!!!
We used to joke that if the house caught fire or there was a storm, we had more reason than most to run down to the basement!!!
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On a slightly more serious note...the use of secret compartments in houses is probably how most people unexpectedly find a treasure trove in a house they purchased...when the original owner dies without heirs. They stashed the stuff, but never told anyone where to look for it if something should ever happen to them. That actually happened to an elderly neighbor...she became a recluse and died in her 90's after living in the same house for 60 years.
The stacks of money and valuables that the ambulance crews found that day (when they found her body) was unbelievable! Anyone with sticky fingers made out well on that call!
On a slightly more serious note...the use of secret compartments in houses is probably how most people unexpectedly find a treasure trove in a house they purchased...when the original owner dies without heirs. They stashed the stuff, but never told anyone where to look for it if something should ever happen to them. That actually happened to an elderly neighbor...she became a recluse and died in her 90's after living in the same house for 60 years.
The stacks of money and valuables that the ambulance crews found that day (when they found her body) was unbelievable! Anyone with sticky fingers made out well on that call!
<< <i>I won't say if I have, I won't say if I haven't!!
Well then why ask us if we have?
Furniture...
Coins...
Cars...
Boats...
Guns...
Nuclear weapons...
Etc...etc...
And to think that the off-site storage business is relatively new and people actually had to keep all their stuff IN THEIR HOUSES!!! GASP!
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<< <i>I won't say if I have, I won't say if I haven't!!
Well then why ask us if we have? >>
Need to read between the lines. Basically wondering how popular this idea is, and whether I'm off my rocker.
If you're handy, have a good out of the way place scoped out, and your safe deposit fees are becoming prohibitive (we were up to $1500/year), then it's definitely worth the effort...plus you have the added benefit of being able to look at your stuff whenever you want.
But once again...you have to be creative...and make any potential burgler work (and waste time) to crack the "DeVinci Code." Since most burglers like to get in and get out quickly, they don't want to waste time looking for hidden compartments.
But the key to all of this is that you can't tell anyone about it...not even your best friend...and as few extended family members as possible. Like I said earlier, the only time my wife of many years found out about the compartment in my parent's house was when we helped them pack and move...SURPRISE.
And, oh yeah, empty air conditioner sleeves (when properly reinforced) also make for good "temporary" storage...you just need to keep the face plate on to make it all look legit from inside a room!
<< <i>But the key to all of this is that you can't tell anyone about it...not even your best friend...and as few extended family members as possible. >>
I agree 100%.
Having a secret compartment or room is great if you live alone and never tell a soul. But once your wife, kids, or any other family member or friend knows of its existence, your secret is pretty much worthless. Why? It's not necessarily that you can't trust them, it's just that people gossip about things like that. They can't help it - it's human nature!
When coin collectors get robbed, it's almost always an inside job. Unfortunately, if somebody KNOWS you have something valuable and wants it bad enough, no safe, secret room, safe deposit box, or anything else will do you any bit of good. Period. Like RichR said, being discreet is the key!
<< <i>We recently acquired a safe deposit box and moved everything to it. I sleep better at night and besides........ I'd hate to have to shoot someone over a coin........ >>
<< <i>We recently acquired a safe deposit box and moved everything to it. I sleep better at night and besides........ I'd hate to have to shoot someone over a coin........ >>
Don't be complacent. If you thought a bad guy might suspect you had coins in the house, how is he going to know that you now have a safe deposit box??? Whatever you thought might lure him to your house (deliveries from Heritage, Superiour, etc for example) may still be in existance. If you don't want the bad guys coming, don't move the loot but eliminate the advertizing...for example, my gargage is cleverly disguised a a junk repository...or maybe it's not a disguise.
Second, I have a neighbor who was doing an office upgrade and hinged a bookcase into a hidden room under the stairs. It is very cool. I might copy if if I had a similar floor plan.
All the good stuff goes to my secret safety deposit box.
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<< <i>I haven't but sounds like a good idea. Does anyone have any good plans? >>
See the link I put halfway down the 1st page of the thread. It has some good ideas. I have another book even better that has detailed plans on how to devise various release mechanisms that is very ingenious. I'll see if I can find a link.
Here is a REALLY good book:
http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Rooms-Compartments-Jerry-Dzindzeleta/dp/0967113903
..........by that time they also learn the value of life...but by then it 'd be too late.
<< <i>Kinda makes you wonder what eople are hiding in all those Public Storage bins across the country, doesn't it...
Furniture...
Coins...
Cars...
Boats...
Guns...
Nuclear weapons...
Etc...etc...
And to think that the off-site storage business is relatively new and people actually had to keep all their stuff IN THEIR HOUSES!!! GASP! >>
Stuff guys who were bachelors for too long can't part with but the wife won't let in the house: porn, billiards trophies, beer signs, bongs, Bowers & Ruddy catalogues, ....
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No way I have the construction skills needed, so of course I'd need to hire a contractor. Don't have that sort of cash though. No way I'm getting a loan, either.
Maybe if I sold all my coins?
Safes IMHO are safe for the coins most of the time but could be very dangerous to the inhabitants of the house, If you really have a large amount of coins or other valuables and a serious thief knows you have a safe, not one he or they could carry out, they might just force the homeowners to open it and that usually does not end well.
<< <i>I keep all my expensive coins at Longacre's house. I do not want to take any chances.
Don't you store your collection in the secret refrigerator drawers?
I'll PM you the blueprints, and a yahoo map to my house.
Ray
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