Small Forest's 2006 price guide, which I believe is basically a study of recent auction prices without taking grade into consideration (so a nice original UNC would be higher and a circulated one with some problems would be lower), lists 871 at $139, 872 at $66 and says that 873 is "never available" and doesn't list a price.
NGC is extremely tough on grading these. Most that I have seen are polished. I have talked with a former employee that has told me that although he doesn't remember these being polished, it wouldn't surprise him that they were considering who they were done for. The ones that I have seen are hairlined. Some have been bagged by NGC and some haven't.
Could be a very sweet catch in original boxes if they are, in fact, original.
From the HK book 1963 Not much help when it comes to the gold in original holder 873 ,,,, Holy rat rap frat dude !! I would be all in. 871 $32.50 872 $22.50 873 $125
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."
<< <i>The boxes say medalic art Co. on them and they appear to be in the original wrapping. >>
$9.99 starting bid ,,, commemorative pieces $ 5.00 sold
Only on e gold piece was made, presented to Trygve Lie , then U.N. secratery-general
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."
Thanks for the correction Tom and the current info ! When do we get a shot at the NEW book ???
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."
The government, in its infinite wisdom, used to go around seizing the gold ones. TD
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<< <i>Thanks for the correction Tom and the current info ! When do we get a shot at the NEW book ??? >>
Looks to get the new book on the market in June. Not sure we'll make it, but that's the goal. I'm currently running about a month and a half behind. >>
Hope she makes the June time line, Happy birthday to me !!
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."
How about some pics of the original boxes to drool over?
For those who watch the pop reports, this issue shows something interesting. NGC reports having graded a whopping 79 of HK-872 -- nearly 1/3 of the total mintage. They also report having graded 25 of the "never available" HK-873, almost 10% of that piece's total mintage.
On the other hand, they report having graded only --> 2 <-- of HK-871.
My best guess is that one person had a hoard for the bronze and gold pieces, and either didn't have any silvers or haven't submitted them yet.
Either that, or NGC simply messed up their pop reports. On the other hand, this isn't the only issue where the graded populations are out of whack with the expected populations.
Getting back to the question at hand, Heritage just sold an HK-873 in MS-61 for $2200. They sold another one three years ago for $570. Prices for So-Called Dollars are basically unpredictable right now (check out the upcoming auctions at Stacks and B&M if you want some laughs), but that should at least give a ballpark.
It's available on ebay. I'm fairly certain that if you contacted the ebay member smallforest, he'd sell you a copy. I'm not really sure what good it'll do you. Remember it's a guide. I would venture to guess that the prices in there were way off of what I got on ebay last night for a bunch I sold. In addition, prices are changing SO fast, that no guide could keep up. That's why this next edition of the book just cannot have pricing. Do I go with what I feel they are worth, what they traded for today, or what they will likely be trading for when the book comes out? And for those of you that say who cares, just give us some sort of guide on price, would you sell a 1799 Bust Dollar for $500, $1000, or $2000? And yes, the prices are changing that much. I can mention a few different auctions where SCDs have brought $1000 more than what was expected. That's not the norm, but who the heck knows right now. Prices can certainly be double the expected amount, even if that's small scale. I just sold a HK-299 (see www.so-calleddollar.com) for $130. It was graded AU58. A nice example, but this isn't THAT rare of a piece. I have come across quite a few without really trying. I think I paid $75 or less for it less than 6 months ago. I thought I paid a lot back then.
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UN 871-873
Looks like some neat finds.
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<< <i>Can't help with prices, but for anyone who wondered what you were talking about, here is a good link:
UN 871-873
Looks like some neat finds. >>
Can this be considered a "private pattern" using the definition at USPatterns.com?
NGC is extremely tough on grading these. Most that I have seen are polished. I have talked with a former employee that has told me that although he doesn't remember these being polished, it wouldn't surprise him that they were considering who they were done for. The ones that I have seen are hairlined. Some have been bagged by NGC and some haven't.
Could be a very sweet catch in original boxes if they are, in fact, original.
Not much help when it comes to the gold in original holder 873 ,,,, Holy rat rap frat dude !! I would be all in.
871 $32.50
872 $22.50
873 $125
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
<< <i>The boxes say medalic art Co. on them and they appear to be in the original wrapping. >>
$9.99 starting bid ,,, commemorative pieces $ 5.00 sold
Only on e gold piece was made, presented to Trygve Lie , then U.N. secratery-general
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
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<< <i>The boxes say medalic art Co. on them and they appear to be in the original wrapping. >>
$9.99 starting bid ,,, commemorative pieces $ 5.00 sold
Only on e gold piece was made, presented to Trygve Lie , then U.N. secratery-general >>
Wrong.
From the records of Medalic Art and as it will be in the new book:
871. Silver. 38mm. 750 minted. R-5.
872. Bronze. 250 minted. R-4.
873. Gold, .900 fine. Single thickness. 314 minted. R-6.
873a. Gold. Double thickness. 4 minted. R-9.
873b. Gold. Triple thickness. 4 minted. R-9.
873c. Gold. Quadruple thickness. 4 minted. R-9.
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<< <i>The boxes say medalic art Co. on them and they appear to be in the original wrapping. >>
$9.99 starting bid ,,, commemorative pieces $ 5.00 sold
Only on e gold piece was made, presented to Trygve Lie , then U.N. secratery-general >>
Wrong.
From the records of Medalic Art and as it will be in the new book:
871. Silver. 38mm. 750 minted. R-5.
872. Bronze. 250 minted. R-4.
873. Gold, .900 fine. Single thickness. 314 minted. R-6.
873a. Gold. Double thickness. 4 minted. R-9.
873b. Gold. Triple thickness. 4 minted. R-9.
873c. Gold. Quadruple thickness. 4 minted. R-9. >>
Thanks for the correction Tom and the current info ! When do we get a shot at the NEW book ???
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
TD
<< <i>Thanks for the correction Tom and the current info ! When do we get a shot at the NEW book ???
Looks to get the new book on the market in June. Not sure we'll make it, but that's the goal. I'm currently running about a month and a half behind.
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<< <i>Thanks for the correction Tom and the current info ! When do we get a shot at the NEW book ???
Looks to get the new book on the market in June. Not sure we'll make it, but that's the goal. I'm currently running about a month and a half behind. >>
Hope she makes the June time line, Happy birthday to me !!
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
For those who watch the pop reports, this issue shows something interesting. NGC reports having graded a whopping 79 of HK-872 -- nearly 1/3 of the total mintage. They also report having graded 25 of the "never available" HK-873, almost 10% of that piece's total mintage.
On the other hand, they report having graded only --> 2 <-- of HK-871.
My best guess is that one person had a hoard for the bronze and gold pieces, and either didn't have any silvers or haven't submitted them yet.
Either that, or NGC simply messed up their pop reports.
Getting back to the question at hand, Heritage just sold an HK-873 in MS-61 for $2200. They sold another one three years ago for $570. Prices for So-Called Dollars are basically unpredictable right now (check out the upcoming auctions at Stacks and B&M if you want some laughs), but that should at least give a ballpark.
jonathan
<< <i>Small Forest's 2006 price guide, >>
Where can you get a copy?
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<< <i>Small Forest's 2006 price guide, >>
Where can you get a copy? >>
It's available on ebay. I'm fairly certain that if you contacted the ebay member smallforest, he'd sell you a copy. I'm not really sure what good it'll do you. Remember it's a guide. I would venture to guess that the prices in there were way off of what I got on ebay last night for a bunch I sold. In addition, prices are changing SO fast, that no guide could keep up. That's why this next edition of the book just cannot have pricing. Do I go with what I feel they are worth, what they traded for today, or what they will likely be trading for when the book comes out? And for those of you that say who cares, just give us some sort of guide on price, would you sell a 1799 Bust Dollar for $500, $1000, or $2000? And yes, the prices are changing that much. I can mention a few different auctions where SCDs have brought $1000 more than what was expected. That's not the norm, but who the heck knows right now. Prices can certainly be double the expected amount, even if that's small scale. I just sold a HK-299 (see www.so-calleddollar.com) for $130. It was graded AU58. A nice example, but this isn't THAT rare of a piece. I have come across quite a few without really trying. I think I paid $75 or less for it less than 6 months ago. I thought I paid a lot back then.