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Some of the worst CC Gold Counterfeits I've ever seen on Ebay

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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    From a powerseller to boot. image

    BTW this would be a good thread to point out Counterfeit identifiers on these. I don't have my book in front of me.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please do point out the identifiers... I was not considering buying, but gold coins are an interest of mine, and I could be impulsive at times. Cheers, RickO
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    The '71 looks like a lead counterfeit dipped in gold paint. You can see grey where the paint was rubbed off.
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    percybpercyb Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭✭
    Did you notify ebay?
    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
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    Someone with better computer skills than I have could put the Ebay 70CC $5 image next to my TrueView image for comparison. Date and MM and not even close
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    << <i>Did you notify ebay? >>



    No, I'd rather get a root canal than try to get Ebay to listen.
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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Someone with better computer skills than I have could put the Ebay 70CC $5 image next to my TrueView image for comparison. Date and MM and not even close



    << <i>Did you notify ebay? >>



    No, I'd rather get a root canal than try to get Ebay to listen. >>



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    very fugly
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you look carefully all three are the same coin. Check the nose dig out. It's the same
    on all three. Must be photoshopped? All dates are improper and would never have
    been so sloppy at the CC mint. I agree that they are fakes.
    bob
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
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    theumptheump Posts: 634 ✭✭
    For anyone who deals with raw gold, you must simply own the book "United States Gold Counterfeit Detection Guide" by Bill Fivaz. This book is available at Amazon and Whitman.
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    Ive seen better Clown made balloon stars.....those obverse stars are just terrible......image
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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,627 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Same seller has an 1875 Philly $5 listed. As if a buyer of an 1875 $5 wouldn't be looking VERY carefully at it! image

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yi Li? In Poenix? Is that a suburb of Beijing?

    It appears that all of her "coins" are counterfeit.
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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,944 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It appears that all of her "coins" are counterfeit. >>

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    Some are dangerously deceptive. The gold coins all appear to be from the same reverse die.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With the information posted here, I can clearly see these coins are reproductions... thank you, Cheers, RickO
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    OK, I decided to report these auctions to Ebay last Friday. Here's the canned response I got today.

    Dear eBay Member,

    Thank you for writing eBay in regard to suspicious coin listings.

    Because eBay does not employ or train its Trust & Safety Customer
    Support Representatives to be experts in the area of coins and currency,
    we rely on expert opinions from knowledgeable people as well as reliable
    third party organizations, such as the American Numismatic Association
    (ANA).

    Your report will be reviewed by a group of members that comprise a
    community watch group for coin auctions. They then confer amongst
    themselves and either agree or disagree that the listings are
    problematic. They then forward that information to the ANA for review.
    The ANA can then agree or disagree after careful consideration. If they
    agree, they then contact the seller directly. Sellers are then afforded
    24 hours in which to revise or cancel the auctions. If they fail to do
    so, eBay must cancel the auction.



    I'll be on Social Security and Elvis will have left the building by the time that happens.
    No wonder there is so much counterfeit crappp on Ebay - they have nothing to fear!

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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the only difference between those pieces is what was done in photoshop to each file.

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>OK, I decided to report these auctions to Ebay last Friday. Here's the canned response I got today.

    Dear eBay Member,

    Thank you for writing eBay in regard to suspicious coin listings.

    Because eBay does not employ or train its Trust & Safety Customer
    Support Representatives to be experts in the area of coins and currency,
    we rely on expert opinions from knowledgeable people as well as reliable
    third party organizations, such as the American Numismatic Association
    (ANA).

    Your report will be reviewed by a group of members that comprise a
    community watch group for coin auctions. They then confer amongst
    themselves and either agree or disagree that the listings are
    problematic. They then forward that information to the ANA for review.
    The ANA can then agree or disagree after careful consideration. If they
    agree, they then contact the seller directly. Sellers are then afforded
    24 hours in which to revise or cancel the auctions. If they fail to do
    so, eBay must cancel the auction.



    I'll be on Social Security and Elvis will have left the building by the time that happens.
    No wonder there is so much counterfeit crappp on Ebay - they have nothing to fear! >>



    I have seen so many auctions closed in a matter of days. How can they possibly go through all of this. I know coinguy has a shortcut, I wonder how he does it.
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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
    people suck...........
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    i wonder if ebay even has an "official" stance on counterfeit coins, there was a counterfeit seated dime listed recently, it was a contemporary and was listed AS a counterfeit, the listing was pulled the next day would someone report a seller for listing an item for what it was ? and then they pull it ?? makes ZERO sense.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i> I'll be on Social Security and Elvis will have left the building by the time that happens. No wonder there is so much counterfeit crappp on Ebay - they have nothing to fear! >>



    Disagree. I'd bet real money that these will be taken down before they close. I've never seen one like this reported and then allowed to close. --jerry
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    << <i>Disagree. I'd bet real money that these will be taken down before they close. I've never seen one like this reported and then allowed to close. --jerry >>



    14 hours till close and they are still up and running!!
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    These 3 auctions recently closed at a total of over $5000 ! image
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Ok. I was wrong. This is the first one (actually 3) like this I've seen reported that made it to closure.
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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>These 3 auctions recently closed at a total of over $5000 ! image >>



    That stinks. You would think someone spending that kind of money would research these or get a professional opinion first.
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    numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    It takes a few days, but the seller will get canned on eBay. The response CarsonCityGold received from eBay is the same one I received when reporting a string of counterfeits a couple of months ago. It took a few days, but all auctions were cancelled and the seller NARU'ed.

    PS - I agree that all of the coins listed are cast counterfeits.

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