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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you see a mark then it probably won't grade 70. While the 70's aren't perfect, they are usually blemish free.

    If it's a tough coin in 70 then it might have a chance.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    You're going to return coins because they don't grade 70?

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    Russ, NCNE
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    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You'll find it much easier just to get your money back for the raw coins and buy PCGS 70's already slabed.
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    << <i>You're going to return coins because they don't grade 70?

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    Russ, NCNE >>



    Nevermind
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I understood exactly what you meant. That's why it's so funny - and lame.

    Russ, NCNE
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    ledzep87ledzep87 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    No. Quit playing the slab game and learn to grade before you start shelling out big bucks.
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    << <i>No. Quit playing the slab game and learn to grade before you start shelling out big bucks. >>



    Amen!!
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    You need to take up a different hobby then.
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    I absolutely love gold proof coins!
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    robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>You're going to return coins because they don't grade 70?

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    Russ, NCNE >>



    You don't understand what I mean. I'm not returning them to PCGS, I'm going to return them to where I got them from if they don't stand a chance. Ya know what I mean? >>



    You're the type of buyer with unrealistic expectations that I sure wouldn't want buying anything from me. What's your eBay ID?
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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>You're going to return coins because they don't grade 70?

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    Russ, NCNE >>



    You don't understand what I mean. I'm not returning them to PCGS, I'm going to return them to where I got them from if they don't stand a chance. Ya know what I mean? >>





    That's still cruel to the seller. Unless yo are returning them to the mint.

    It is possible for little pin holes on an MS70 coin. They appear due to the minting process and the coin is still as it was struck so it can receive a grade of 70.
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    << <i>You need to take up a different hobby then. >>



    Hey, I only want the best for myself and I'm trying to upgrade my collection. Man, why is that so bad?
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hey, I only want the best for myself and I'm trying to upgrade my collection. Man, why is that so bad? >>



    Nothing wrong with that. But, it's silly - and unrealistic - to return coins because they don't grade MS70.

    Russ, NCNE
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    Sheesh, I regret bringing this up. You guys are totally taking this out of proportion.

    I apologize to all of you, I really do. I just don't know how strict they are on the 70's. I won't ask for any more help.
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    This is why you wait for the other party to leave feedback before doing so yourself.

    Returning coins because they don't grade 70? Assuming they are UNC, he should at least leave them in the PCGS holder when he sends them back to the seller...

    Maybe his turnaround will be as long as mine and he won't meet the deadline for returns.
    //ab

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    Heck, and why does everybody think I go these on Ebay?????????? I never said that once.

    Once again, I sincerely apologize to all of you.
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    ledzep87ledzep87 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    If you are determined to have coin graded MS70, buy one that is already slabbed. If you can not tell the difference between a coin that is graded 69 and 70, learn how to grade. Otherwise, you will be wasting your money.
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    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm tellin' ya man. Just buy them already slabbed in the grade you want. Alot less of a headache.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Heck, and why does everybody think I go these on Ebay?????????? I never said that once. Once again, I sincerely apologize to all of you. >>



    I would suspect you got them from the mint and I agree with Russ on this one.

    BTW Russ, that coin I bought from you better grade 70....er, oh yeah, it's graded and slabbed 70. I guess I'm ok.

    --Jerry
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,974 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sheesh, I regret bringing this up. You guys are totally taking this out of proportion.

    I apologize to all of you, I really do. I just don't know how strict they are on the 70's. I won't ask for any more help. >>




    It's not totally unreasonable to return an item that doesn't make 70 if it's
    an issue that is usually a 70 candidate (if such a thing exists). Otherwise
    it would be akin to returning a $2 average circulated indian cent because
    it's not an 1877.

    Don't sweat it. It's probably best if the thread just dies.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you want a 70 that bad, go use PCI or SGS. Pretty much guaranteed you will get your 70.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Heck, and why does everybody think I go these on Ebay?????????? I never said that once.

    Once again, I sincerely apologize to all of you. >>




    Do yourself and any dealers you might buy from a favor and get yourself educated before wasting everybody's time. If you are buying stuff with the expectation of having the coin graded 70 (absolute perfection) but don't realize what the requirements (absolute perfection) are for that grade, you're wasting everybody's time, being unrealistic as a buyer, and wasting your money. Great way to piss everybody off and get yourself frustrated. Will you buy lottery tickets and try to return them if they don't win? That's what is coming across to me.
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    GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374
    Why apologize.?!?!..Is that what you want ..a Perfect coin under 20 x magnification..?? Some of us are content with a ms67 or ms68 in a modern coin. Even some classic collectors settle for ...geeze...a mere..ms 65 even..or ms 64.Learn to look at a coin with a different eye and you'll be pleased ........image
    ......Larry........image
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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,705 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>You need to take up a different hobby then. >>



    Hey, I only want the best for myself and I'm trying to upgrade my collection. Man, why is that so bad? >>

    You only want the best, but you have to ask us what the best is because you don't know? If you can't tell the difference, THEN WHAT DOES IT MATTER?
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    CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image I recently sent in several orders of gold&silver proofs plus others. I received some 70's so far on non proofs. Rest 69's . I expect around 10%. Be happy with 69. As said, kick in the cash for already graded coins,&/or buy from mint take your chances,resell what does not suit you.image
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    busco69busco69 Posts: 815 ✭✭
    I don't believe any coin to be perfect there for I think the ms 70 grade is bs. How many people can tell ms69 from 70 if you take away the slab? My guess would be not many.
    ''Coin collecting is the only hobby where you can spend all your money and still have some left''
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    I only want the best for myself and this is what I get. I'm new to this hobby and look where it gets me to aska simple question. I notice a lot of c 0 c k y jerks here. Thats all I see.
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    TCoinsTCoins Posts: 567 ✭✭
    Wow, everyones kinda rough on the new guy. He just ask a question and he needs a little guidence. If we treat all newbies this way and no one will get into this hobby.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome Nick... and just remember...
    Not everyone can be an Oscar Meyer Wiener.

    Only a select few image
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    busco69busco69 Posts: 815 ✭✭
    Nick it was a good question.There are some helpful people on this board don't give up yet and good luck on your collection.
    ''Coin collecting is the only hobby where you can spend all your money and still have some left''
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    << <i>Nick it was a good question.There are some helpful people on this board don't give up yet and good luck on your collection. >>



    Thanks. Since this is a PCGS board I thought there would be more class here. I guess I was totally wrong.
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    flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    If you want 70s, send your coins to SGS. They'll give you your 70s.
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    << <i>If you want 70s, send your coins to SGS. They'll give you your 70s. >>



    But I really meant it..............
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    GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374
    You are a JERK.......!!!!!!!
    ......Larry........image
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "poof" image...


    Nick , go back and edit and I think you need a fairer shake than these guys are giving you. Please keep in mind they are joking with suggesting SGS image.... Take it easy, mate and go take the bad stuff out.

    Thanks,


    Joe
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1) Nick, you come on here, ask a (you believe) valid question, and you get slammed.
    2) People are being somewhat harsh, but that is who some of them are
    3) You don't seem to understand that many of these people also sell and it is very bad form to buy a raw coin, accept it, send it in for "perfect" and if it isn't achieved, want to return it.
    4) Grading services aren't perfect and you are accepting that a 70 from PCGS is correct.....there are plenty of examples where it isn't
    5) If something doesn't come back perfect, you want to return it....that is classless unless it is advertised as "guaranteed to get PCGS MS70 or your money back".
    6) You obviously haven't do any background reading on the boards and just jumped in.....in that case, you get what happened....
    7) There are people on here who just like to attack others they deem as unworthy. Get used to it or leave. It happens.
    8) Your last response is a way of getting around the censors and you will be booted for it if PCGS notices. Totally uncool by you. If you are that frustrated, take a timeout and/or move on.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>If you want 70s, send your coins to SGS. They'll give you your 70s. >>



    But I really meant it.............. >>



    Good that you edited out the profanity you used in getting around the censors. Regardless of whether you meant it or not, it was classless and shouldn't have been done.

    Not cool and totally not cool by someone new who hasn't taken the time to learn the players and how they act/react.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,030 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If you want 70s, send your coins to SGS. They'll give you your 70s. >>



    But I really meant it.............. >>



    LOL, I'm startin' to like this guy
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    << <i>

    << <i>If you want 70s, send your coins to SGS. They'll give you your 70s. >>



    But I really meant it.............. >>



    Good that you edited out the profanity you used in getting around the censors. Regardless of whether you meant it or not, it was classless and shouldn't have been done.

    Not cool and totally not cool by someone new who hasn't taken the time to learn the players and how they act/react. >>



    I can be classless too. I don't need this place for anything. If I get booted, who cares? I won't, LOL. It will be funny actually. I'll go elsewhere for help/advice.

    I'm out of here and could care less.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, everyones kinda rough on the new guy. >>



    Yeah, I was.

    Nick,

    I apologize. I didn't realize you were a new collector. It is not a silly question coming from a newb.

    Russ, NCNE
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i> If most of these people knew what I did for a living, they'd show A LOT more respect. >>



    Ah geez, now you have to go and pull that crap. Good riddance.

    Russ, NCNE
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    << <i>

    << <i> If most of these people knew what I did for a living, they'd show A LOT more respect. >>



    Ah geez, now you have to go and pull that crap. Good riddance.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    I don't need you for anything, why are you telling me "good riddance?" If I want to ask you for something, you will be spoken to, until then, sit down and keep your mouth shut. Understand?
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    You're a cute little troll. image

    Russ, NCNE
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now we're getting somewhere image
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    << <i>You're a cute little troll. image

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Thanks!
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    << <i>
    I can be classless too. I don't need this place for anything. If I get booted, who cares? I won't, LOL. It will be funny actually. I'll go elsewhere for help/advice. If most of these people knew what I did for a living, they'd show A LOT more respect. But no one will ever know.
    I'm out of here and could care less. >>



    So what do you do for a living? PCGS grader?
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i><< You're a cute little troll.

    Russ, NCNE >>

    Thats EXACTLY what your wife said! >>



    Did she say that before, or after, she told you to rub it on the side to get some feeling? image

    Russ, NCNE
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    << <i>

    << <i><< You're a cute little troll.

    Russ, NCNE >>

    Thats EXACTLY what your wife said! >>



    Did she say that before, or after, she told you to rub it on the side to get some feeling? image

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Man, grow up. You're making a huge fool of yourself. You're losing respect by the minute.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Is that the best you've got, Bunky? You should check out the forums at Disneyland.

    Russ, NCNE

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