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I guess these 1964 proof sets are VERY early strikes.
Russ
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I purchased these Proof Sets from the US Mint 10/31/63 for $2.10 each.
I think this is clear evidence that JFK's assassination was, indeed, a government conspiracy. Even the mint was in on it.
Russ, NCNE
I think this is clear evidence that JFK's assassination was, indeed, a government conspiracy. Even the mint was in on it.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>I purchased these Proof Sets from the US Mint 10/31/63 for $2.10 each.
I think this is clear evidence that JFK's assassination was, indeed, a government conspiracy. Even the mint was in on it.
Russ, NCNE >>
I thought that the mint did not seal proof sets from 1961or 1962-1964. How come your sets are sealed I really dont understand this.
<< <i>So, what amount are you going to enter on your snipe? >>
If I was planning a bid, I wouldn't have posted a link.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>I thought that the mint did not seal proof sets from 1961or 1962-1964. >>
The mint did seal proof sets. They didn't seal mint sets. That said, the vast majority of "mint sealed" proof sets on eBay are picked over repacks.
Russ, NCNE
Assuming Kennedy wasn't assassinated would not have the Franklins continued to be made?
Bruce
<< <i>If he purchased them when he said he did, didn't he buy them thinking the halves would be Franklins? >>
I sent him an eMail noting that they couldn't be 1964 proof sets with that purchase date since Kennedy wasn't assasinated until 11/22/63. His response was:
<< <i>THE ENVELOPES ARE MARKED 1964 P.C.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
UNITED STATES MINT
PHILADELPHIA, PA. 19130 >>
So, either his memory isn't so good or he's full of crap.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>If he purchased them when he said he did, didn't he buy them thinking the halves would be Franklins? >>
I sent him an eMail noting that they couldn't be 1964 proof sets with that purchase date since Kennedy wasn't assasinated until 11/22/63. His response was:
<< <i>THE ENVELOPES ARE MARKED 1964 P.C.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
UNITED STATES MINT
PHILADELPHIA, PA. 19130 >>
So, either his memory isn't so good or he's full of crap.
Russ, NCNE >>
or really stupid to be unable to draw the conclusion that is so obvious
Considering it wasn't until March of 64 before the Kennedy halves were ready for release, I wonder why no Franklin halves were minted in the first 2 months of 64. Maybe some retired mint employee has a few 64 Franklins stashed away.
JJ
With coin hoarding at an all-time frenzy back then, the October part is wrong also - whether he meant 1963 or 1964.
Joe
CG
<< <i>No Franklin halves were produced dated 1964. >>
Are you sure?
Russ, NCNE
Joe
<< <i>The Kennedy half was approved in late December 1963. No Franklin halves were produced dated 1964. >>
I know that, but no kennedy coins were released to circulation until March. Prior to 64 with the Kennedy hoarding, halves were used in commerce like any other coin and were subject to shortages.
JJ
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<< <i>THE ENVELOPES ARE MARKED 1964 P.C.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
UNITED STATES MINT
PHILADELPHIA, PA. 19130 >>
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The ZIP Code is the wrong format for early ship sets. Somewhere is a thread with a picture of a box Marty bought with the old postal code on the return address. Maybe he meant he bought them in October of 1964?
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
CG
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>The date they were shipped does not have much to do with when they were ordered. I recall ordering the 1968 set in October 1967 and did not receive the coins until late summer. Once might expect a similiar sitiuation prevailed in 1964.
CG >>
That is the point.....even if they were ordered in 1963 (with the expectation of Franklin Halves).... They would have been shipped in mid to late 1964 with Kennedy Halves instead.....
The mint CERTAINLY DID NOT advertise1964 proof sets with Kennedy Half Dollars in October 1963.........
<< <i>CalGold is correct. There was no such thing as FIFO back then.
Russ, NCNE >>
I was not referring to FIFO.....The point I was trying to make was that even if they were ordered in 1963 with the expectation of Franklin Halves.... They would have been shipped in mid to late 1964 with Kennedy Halves instead..... regardless of WHEN they were ordered.....
The mint CERTAINLY DID NOT advertise1964 proof sets with Kennedy Half Dollars in October 1963.........
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<< <i>No Franklin halves were produced dated 1964. >>
Are you sure?
Russ, NCNE >>
Russ brings up an interesting point. Breen in his Encyclopedia states that a NYC dealer told him about being offered (and seeing) a 1964 Franklin half. The coin apparently hasn't been seen since. Has anyone seen a 1964 Franklin half?
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
Russ, NCNE
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
<< <i>The answer is in the feedback.
So, Bush 41 was in on the dirty deed, eh?
<< <i>Assuming these are genuine envelopes, I believe the early batches of proof sets had the old zone designation, "Philadelphia 30, PA" which was changed to :"Philadelphia, PA 19130" later in 1964. >>
Five digit zip codes were implimented beginning in July of 1963. I would think the government would have been one of the first to begin using them, especially on envelopes that weren't sent out until close to a year later.
<< <i><< Assuming these are genuine envelopes, I believe the early batches of proof sets had the old zone designation, "Philadelphia 30, PA" which was changed to :"Philadelphia, PA 19130" later in 1964. >>
Five digit zip codes were implimented beginning in July of 1963. I would think the government would have been one of the first to begin using them, especially on envelopes that weren't sent out until close to a year later. >>
Joe is correct. The earliest 1964 proof set envelopes did not have the zip code.
Russ, NCNE