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Do you know how to grade without looking at a grading guide?

291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
I have found that collectors of foreign coins are very good at this. US only collectors are not.
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  • BS !!!
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe it is a life-long process that never ends.

    I'm getting better all the time, and I look forward to continued improvement.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those that study and practice become proficient.. those that buy plastic, do not. image Cheers, RickO
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,846 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>BS !!! >>

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  • mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭
    xf45
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you know how to grade without looking at a grading guide? >>

    Depends on the series. I'm pretty confident in grading seated halves and other seated coinage because thats been my area of interest for over 4 years.
  • p8ntp8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
    I can grade between XF and MS68 almost exactly the same as the top TPGs. However, anything lower than XF and I'm just guessing.
  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like stereotyping.
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  • << <i>Do you know how to grade without looking at a grading guide? >>



    Yes, just look at the number on the holder. imageimage
  • I never look at a grading guide.
  • Grade lots of US coins that aren't in the grading guides, like commems. Grading a specific series takes lots of practice.

    David

  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, on most series. Expensive circulated coins are still worth more research and possibly a trip to a grading guide for additional information.

    For most coins running to a grading guide to figure the difference between a VF25 and an EF40 is just silly.
  • 09sVDB09sVDB Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭
    If it's a series that I have collected for a long time yes. If not no.
  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have found that collectors of foreign coins are very good at this. US only collectors are not. >>



    BS !!!

    Of course it's complete BS. The top coin collectors are US collectors, always have been.



  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Traditional" foreign coin grading only involves what, four grades? That makes it a whole lot easier than Mr. Sheldon's approach.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,780 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I very rarely ever use a grading guide. Once in a great while, I will reference check specifics as to detail of what a typical example with a specific grade portrayed in the guide looks like. More so if its a coin in lower grades that are infrequently encountered. Also, becuase more people grade by detail alone, I have to know what others expect to see when selling on line raw.

    jim
  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    What's Grading. image

    O yeah, and US coins rule image
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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Recently, I berated a seller about a coin he was selling because it was likely overgraded and his reply was, "what makes you think that you know more then NGC or PCGS? I didn't take the time to answer that because my point wasn't going anywhere. But I would have liked to have said, "I have several more years of experience with this series than they do, that's why!

    Leo

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  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think a grading guide is helpful for coins we're unfamiliar with. I believe I have a few two centers. Without a grading book
    I can roughly grade the coin. But unless I look at the book how do I know how many letters on the motto or how complete the motto
    is to differentiate one grade from the other.

    Bruce
  • I can poorly grade US and Foreign coins equally.
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If it's a series that I have collected for a long time yes. If not no. >>



    Ditto!
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    - Jim
  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    Grading is pattern recognition.
    Trime
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Why do you need to, the grade is right on the label?
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  • i never use a grading guide when I grade US coins
  • With the coins I most enjoy and have the most experience...Buffalos, Walkers , Morgans...I don't need a guide anymore...I did use it "in the beginning". I'm getting much better with Bust coins but still need a little guidance there.

    Added note...I often find that I will see a coin as one grade one day and another grade on another day. Does that happen to anyone else? Does that happen with "professional" graders? image

    Define an "expert" ...a person who used to be PERTinent...
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image

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