Would you call it a Moose?

Bruceswar · February 22, 2007 12:25PM

So today I went into my local coin shop to pick up an album he had ordered for me.(Dansco Ike) Anyhow I got to looking around a bit at what he had to offer and I noticed a new one. It jumped out at me and said take me home. I usally do not buy morgans, well I should say I do not usally seek them out. I do have a few, but this one just was wow to me. Now the image I am sharing is a bit juiced, but it is not that far off from the colors on the coin. The luster is really nice as well. I told the man to hold the coin for me I would be right back for it. I went home and got some silver coins we agreed on, the Franklin halfs I had for sale. Anyhow I will take a better picture later but for now this will do. What would you pay for something like this? All the color you see in the photo is really there and nearly as vibrant. Your thoughts?? On a side note coming out after my purchase I managed to hit the local dealers car, barely taped it. His truck was fine, but my car has a small dent in it. Turned the car a bit too quick in the parking spot and caught his bumper. Heh what a day..

rec78 · February 22, 2007 12:32PM

No, i call this a moose.

TennesseeDave · February 22, 2007 12:33PM

I think that it is NT or the work of a master.If NT worth moon $.

Bruceswar · February 22, 2007 12:35PM

To clear things up, the coin is NT and is slabbed by NGC. I do not agree with the grade on the holder, but that is just me. What would you pay for a coin like this and what would you grade it?

zenny · February 22, 2007 12:36PM

Impossible to grade a coin without seeing the obverse!

(remember the obverse?)

honest, there's no way to grade it, but the reverse color is obviously all there.

ricko · February 22, 2007 12:37PM

I know you like it.. and others may.. and will not rain on your parade... but for me... no. I would walk on by... and not a question of money. Cheers, RickO

Bruceswar · February 22, 2007 12:41PM

Zenny I know I eft out the obverse so it makes it really hard to grade, but going off the back side. Ricko it is ok. That is what makes coin collecting so great. Everybody can have thier own likes and dislikes.

robec · February 22, 2007 12:42PM

I'll bet Skyman would like it.

Bruceswar · February 22, 2007 12:45PM

I am a sure a few guys would really like this coin. Skyman and others have some really nice toners!

TennesseeDave · February 22, 2007 12:47PM

<< To clear things up, the coin is NT and is slabbed by NGC. I do not agree with the grade on the holder, but that is just me. What would you pay for a coin like this and what would you grade it? >>

What is the date(81-S)Reverse grade 65*

Newb · February 22, 2007 12:48PM

As you said, the images are juiced and I bet it looks much nicer in hand. I'd jump on it.

BobaFett72 · February 22, 2007 12:52PM

how about the obverse pic

and tone down the juice, i like them when they dont burn my retinas lol

Bruceswar · February 22, 2007 12:52PM

The date is 1881 - S The images are not that juiced, but a bit. I need to get a luster shot up. This coin really sings in the light!

bestclser1 · February 22, 2007 12:52PM

Looks like a very nice NT reverse mini moose if its in a 65 holder.JMO

Bruceswar · February 22, 2007 12:53PM

<< how about the obverse pic

and tone down the juice, i like them when they dont burn my retinas lol >>

Really there is not that much juice. The colors on this coin are great if you ask me. The obverse is nearly plain white with a touch of gold on it. I will take some better pictures in a bit of the coin.

dizzyfoxx · February 22, 2007 1:29PM

All depends on your definition of 'Moose'. Some moose are majestic and others are awkward looking.

pharmer · February 22, 2007 1:52PM

It's a very beautiful classic rainbow toned Morgan. Congrats!

Myqqy · February 22, 2007 1:57PM

Whatever you call it, I think it's pretty attractive...

Bruceswar · February 22, 2007 2:30PM

<< Whatever you call it, I think it's pretty attractive...

>>

I agree with you on this one and thus why I now own it.

Bruceswar · February 22, 2007 5:12PM

here is a better shot of the back. I totally missed the obverse shot, but heh you get the idea. NO JUICE in this photo...

Bruceswar · February 22, 2007 9:21PM

For those of you that requested NO JUICE!!

Bruceswar · February 22, 2007 9:23PM

and a luster shot...

AU58WALKERS · February 22, 2007 9:47PM

I don't collect morgans, but I would have a hard time walking by this one in my dealers showcase
since he dosen't charge a premium for toners.

Heywood · February 22, 2007 10:36PM

Rev 64- 65+
Obv 63-64+

NGC grade 64*

I am not a big fan of premiums for toners, But that is one I like, but wouldn't pay more than 30-40% over bid.

I am sure others would pay multiples of bid.

eyoung429 · February 22, 2007 11:13PM

Nice moose and I would pay a premium just for the error slab...

The date is 1881 - S The images are not that juiced, but a bit. I need to get a luster shot up. This coin really sings in the light!

Looks like an 1880 - S to me

Bruceswar · February 22, 2007 11:44PM

Thanks for catching my mistake... 81 S 80 S .. it is all about the same in terms of rarity..

PrivateCoinCollector · February 23, 2007 1:02AM

I am going to say NT. And I would pay a 20%-30% premium, unless it is a 65. Then I couldn't afford it.

Russ · February 23, 2007 1:30AM

Moose? No. It's a common date with common bag toning on the reverse. Nice coin? You bet. Great looking example of a REAL rainbow toner, not an idiot eBay seller rainbow toner. At MS64, it's worth about $200 to $250. At MS65, about $300 to $350.

Russ, NCNE

zenny · February 23, 2007 1:59AM

Ok, now that there's a photo of the coin, it seems an easy 64, maybe a 5, depending on the severity of the gouge near the nose, etc., but a moose?

sorry,

we can call it a moose-keteer, if you'd like.....

RichieURich · February 23, 2007 2:37AM

Very pretty coin, Brucewar!

nankraut · February 23, 2007 2:49AM

<< To clear things up, the coin is NT and is slabbed by NGC. I do not agree with the grade on the holder, but that is just me. What would you pay for a coin like this and what would you grade it? >>

What makes you so sure it is NT? Because it's in an NGC holder? TPG's have slabbed many AT coins. Based on the photo you've posted, I think it's a "doctor job". JMHO, of course, since you asked.

nankraut · February 23, 2007 2:54AM

Now that I've seen the photo of the obverse, I retract my previous post. I'v just about given up trying to determine if a coin is AT/NT, based on photos.

ColdFusion · February 23, 2007 2:54AM

<< Moose? No. It's a common date with common bag toning on the reverse. Nice coin? You bet. Great looking example of a REAL rainbow toner, not an idiot eBay seller rainbow toner. At MS64, it's worth about $200 to $250. At MS65, about $300 to $350.

Russ, NCNE >>

IrishMike · February 23, 2007 3:02AM

Very pretty but there are dozens of them, so no wouldn't classify it as a moose.

MadMarty · February 23, 2007 3:03AM

<< No, i call this a moose.

>>

mgoodm3 · February 23, 2007 3:16AM

Thank you for the second set of images. Pretty.

TONEDDOLLARS · February 23, 2007 3:55AM

MS-63 $80-100

Russ · February 23, 2007 4:05AM

<< MS-63 $80-100 >>

If you have some that look like that for $80 to $100, let me know.

Russ, NCNE

BobaFett72 · February 23, 2007 4:11AM

thanks for adding the new pics, very much appreciated. i like NO JUICE, give a truer image i think.

TONEDDOLLARS · February 23, 2007 5:12AM

IN 63, HOW MANY DO YOU NEED?

Russ · February 23, 2007 5:14AM

<< IN 63, HOW MANY DO YOU NEED? >>

If they look like the one posted in this thread, as many as you want to sell.

Russ, NCNE

Bear · February 23, 2007 5:17AM

If it is only a small moose, would you call it a "MOUSE"

or a "MOOSETT"?

Bruceswar · February 23, 2007 5:26AM

<< 

<< IN 63, HOW MANY DO YOU NEED? >>

If they look like the one posted in this thread, as many as you want to sell.

Russ, NCNE >>

I agree sell me all you got!!!

Bruceswar · February 23, 2007 5:34AM

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<< To clear things up, the coin is NT and is slabbed by NGC. I do not agree with the grade on the holder, but that is just me. What would you pay for a coin like this and what would you grade it? >>

What makes you so sure it is NT? Because it's in an NGC holder? TPG's have slabbed many AT coins. Based on the photo you've posted, I think it's a "doctor job". JMHO, of course, since you asked.

>>

This is the classic toner with all the right colors. Look at all the best rainbow toners and you see many of them follow this same color pattern. This coin takes a page out of Toning 101. Sure some people will argue these coins run right over the devices as far as the color goes, but any coin givin time will do that. I have seen enough toners to stake an NT claim on this one. The fact that NGC certified it does nothing for me other than to keep me from finger printing it.

JRocco · February 23, 2007 7:33AM

Hey Bruceswar,
This coin is 100% different than that circulated Buff toner you posted the other day. Notice how this one toned on the devices compared to the fields next to them. NO COMPARISON.
This one is real. The Buff.......
The slab doesn't make me lean one way or the other, but my feeling is this one is nice. Common enough to not sell for multiples, but a 20-25% bump is reasonable for me. The pics without the juice are much nicer than the pics with in my opinion also.
Nice coin.
edited to add----HERE is the link to the thread with the toned Buff that you and I are referring to if anyone wants to see the difference.

bestclser1 · February 23, 2007 8:34AM

<< Moose? No. It's a common date with common bag toning on the reverse. Nice coin? You bet. Great looking example of a REAL rainbow toner, not an idiot eBay seller rainbow toner. At MS64, it's worth about $200 to $250. At MS65, about $300 to $350.

Russ, NCNE >>

After seeing the obverse and real pics.Russ is right on the money.

TennesseeDave · February 23, 2007 12:23PM

<< 

<< MS-63 $80-100 >>

If you have some that look like that for $80 to $100, let me know.

Russ, NCNE >>

I would buy as many as you can find for that price.

SeattleSlammer · February 23, 2007 12:29PM

From the pics of obverse, it looks like about MS63, in which case given the cool reverse tone, I'd put it at about $150, depending upon which person is bidding on it. But if it's reverse holdered up, and a star coin, could be more like $215. Of course, there are plenty of dealers out there that would ask ridiculous money like $400+ for it, but I think that's too high.

Bruceswar · February 23, 2007 12:59PM

The coin is starred and it is reverse side up. Your price of $215.00 is just a bit more than I paid.

JRocco, both coins in question are 100% NT. I would be my life on both of them. This one is just a classic toner, where as the buff night be a bit different but still NT. I saw the coin for all purposes white in 1991, and bring up to 2003... Now color. It set in a safe for those years. Unless that safe has sulfer in it at some high level then...

Russ · February 26, 2007 4:41AM

<< << MS-63 $80-100 >>

If you have some that look like that for $80 to $100, let me know.

Russ, NCNE >>

I just sold a reverse rainbow MS63 1885-O for $278. And, it's in an ICG holder.

Russ, NCNE

lsica · February 27, 2007 11:02AM

Maybe it's 85-O's. Just sold this for $305 on eBay. It's in an NGC 64 * holder

Would you call it a Moose?

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