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It has started!.....GW error.....Unlettered edge
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And it comes with a full set of finger prints from the picture.
When are people selling coins going to learn how to handle them.
<< <i>At least its a real error. >>
Is it? I wonder how deeply the edge lettering is recessed, and how difficult it would be to grind off and then buff out convincingly. I'm not suggesting the seller did that, but I'm thinkin' out loud, in a way...
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
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<< <i>At least its a real error. >>
Is it? I wonder how deeply the edge lettering is recessed, and how difficult it would be to grind off and then buff out convincingly. I'm not suggesting the seller did that, but I'm thinkin' out loud, in a way... >>
That was my first thought when I saw the pictures.
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<< <i>At least its a real error. >>
Is it? I wonder how deeply the edge lettering is recessed, and how difficult it would be to grind off and then buff out convincingly. I'm not suggesting the seller did that, but I'm thinkin' out loud, in a way... >>
There you go thinking again, quit giving those screwballs ideas...
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<< <i>Love the way he's handling the coin. >>
-Those look like toes. He's holding the coin with his feet.
Seems to me that if you found one of these (and perhaps a discovery piece) wouldn't you hold on to it for awhile and see if you could find more? Or wait to see just how rare it could end up being? I myself would not place on eBay right away. But.... who knows....
Seems odd that the person selling the coin has enough coin knowledge to know about the lettered edge... but not enough knowledge to know how to hold the coin....
<< <i>he's probably needing to sell it to buy some hand lotion >>
<< <i>It's a circulated piece, not a proof coin, who really cares how he holds it. There are likely thousands out there. >>
Kinda like extra leaf,
still a neat error
Box of 20
I was sitting at the PCGS table, submitting some rolls for grading, and a guy walks over and starts asking questions of the staff as he leans over my head. Then he sees my rolls sitting there and reaches over and taps one on the end several times. "What are these?" "Are these samples?". Im looking at him thinking who is this guy and why is he tapping on my coins with his finger????
The PCGS staff member says politely, with a grimace on her face, "No Sir, these are being submitted"
He reaches over again and Taps them AGAIN "These are being submitted?" "They arent for sale?"
I start really getting ticked off--its a coin show, its a grading submission, stop touching my coins!!!! is running through my mind. I reach over lay the rolls town place them way out of reach, then ask a friend for a baggie, and place the rolls into it.
The guy is still behind me and just as he leans in again, another guy comes up and says "Is there where you grade coins?"
The first guy says ,yes, what have you got?, I might be buying.
So they stand behind me discussing the second guys aunt's collection, and the PCGS staffer and I just look at each other and shake our heads.
My day at Long Beach was pretty good except for this guy--I know one of my coins is coming back with tap marks.
<< <i>he's probably needing to sell it to buy some hand lotion >>
lol
The way I take it, he is not a collector, he opened some rolls and found something different. Knowing errors sell for a premium he wanted to be the first to list it so everyone would be ike oh my gosh I never heard of an error like this.... and he would get alot of bids...
Just my thought,
Ray
or... thats what he wanted to make it look like... just him holding the coin like that tells me he is not a collector
<< <i>The first thought that went through my mind is what a clueless seller, but you guys have to hear about this guy at Long Beach yesterday:
I was sitting at the PCGS table, submitting some rolls for grading, and a guy walks over and starts asking questions of the staff as he leans over my head. Then he sees my rolls sitting there and reaches over and taps one on the end several times. "What are these?" "Are these samples?". Im looking at him thinking who is this guy and why is he tapping on my coins with his finger????
The PCGS staff member says politely, with a grimace on her face, "No Sir, these are being submitted"
He reaches over again and Taps them AGAIN "These are being submitted?" "They arent for sale?"
I start really getting ticked off--its a coin show, its a grading submission, stop touching my coins!!!! is running through my mind. I reach over lay the rolls town place them way out of reach, then ask a friend for a baggie, and place the rolls into it.
The guy is still behind me and just as he leans in again, another guy comes up and says "Is there where you grade coins?"
The first guy says ,yes, what have you got?, I might be buying.
So they stand behind me discussing the second guys aunt's collection, and the PCGS staffer and I just look at each other and shake our heads.
My day at Long Beach was pretty good except for this guy--I know one of my coins is coming back with tap marks.
You showed great restraint, I would've been hard pressed not to stand up and tap the guy in the nose a couple of times.
JJ
That said, my first thought at seeing the listing was, should you check the weight or the diameter to see if the edge lettering has been milled off? Both, I guess.
TD
<< <i>Seems to me that if you found one of these (and perhaps a discovery piece) wouldn't you hold on to it for awhile and see if you could find more? Or wait to see just how rare it could end up being? I myself would not place on eBay right away. >>
It's possible he found multiples and is running a test auction.
Russ, NCNE
How could they do such a thing?
This could turn EVERYONE "off" the new dollars.
<< <i>I assumed before they came out that some plain edge errors will have to occur, since the edge lettering is applied after the strike. >>
What is the process for this? The lettering is not applied with a collar during the strike? What type of machine is used to apply the edge lettering?
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<< <i>I assumed before they came out that some plain edge errors will have to occur, since the edge lettering is applied after the strike. >>
What is the process for this? The lettering is not applied with a collar during the strike? What type of machine is used to apply the edge lettering? >>
There's a photo of the machine in the latest Coin World. It's not in front of me at the moment so I can't describe it thoroughly.
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
Now this one would be worth chasing.
This one sounds like something made in the garage or machine shop.
Just a guess
No extra charge for the grimy finger print oil
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<< <i>Final price realized: $650 >>
Way too high imo. Not enough people are fully aware of these coins and the edge lettering for bidiots to fall all over themselves going crazy on some hill billy's auction. Could be wrong but I'd be surprised if that coin realizes even half that amount.
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<< <i>just in case he's legit, i sent him an e-bay message so he doesn't continue to handle the coin with bare hands. a wash in acetone is definitely in order when the sale is completed. >>
He must have listened. He updated his listing to indicate he is not selling the coin showed. I am guessing there will be a lot of these out there, especially since he said he was selling one that will be untouched. Wonder how many rolls he got that were all like that? If I had to guess, quite a few and maybe went back for more.
Only time will tell, but if quality control was not that great we might see a lot or maybe this guy got lucky and a small amount made it to rolls and his bank. In that case, this guy could make a bundle.
Rob the Newbie
<< <i>He must have listened. He updated his listing to indicate he is not selling the coin showed. >>
Well, that's a mistake. The coin just went from "unique" to "lots". I bet he seriously killed his FV with that line.
Problem may arise later after they enter commerce...slot machines in particular. I've seen a large number of half dollars with reeds worn smooth to point it appears they were never there. If you can wear the reeds off a half then you can likely wear the incised lettering off one of these.
D'oh. I just found the other thread. Apparently orientation is random.
<< <i> Apparently orientation is random. >>
Just like around here!!!
<< <i>Apparently orientation is random. >>
That's too easy. I'm leaving that one alone.
Thanks, Chicago Ron