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2007 buffalo ms/pf $5 $10 $25 $50 ??

will us little guys be able to buy 2007 ms/pf buffalo $5/$10/$25/$50 coins from the mint,instead of a dealer.if so,when do they go on sale?and does the mint have to stop selling them on june 22 2007,because congress signed it for only 1 year.thanks for the informationimage

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  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    When did the Mint announce that they were making fractional Buffalos? I must've missed that one...
  • hi,they were saying something on the coin vault a few months ago,then robert chambers said something last week about it,said sometime in feb,but they might push it back till april,leaves a short window to buy,because i think they can only sell the buffalo for 1 year,june 22 2006-june 22-2007,but the coin vault does lie a little,thanks for your help.image
  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>hi,they were saying something on the coin vault a few months ago,then robert chambers said something last week about it,said sometime in feb,but they might push it back till april,leaves a short window to buy,because i think they can only sell the buffalo for 1 year,june 22 2006-june 22-2007,but the coin vault does lie a little,thanks for your help.image >>

    One word of advice: Don't use the Coin Vault as a source for accurate information. HTH...
  • It'd be nice if they offered fractional gold buffalos. I'm trying to put together a type set of 1/10th ounce gold coins from around the world, and it would be nice to add a 24-karat buffalo to my maple leaf, panda, and eagle.
    I collect the elements on the periodic table, and some coins. I have a complete Roosevelt set, and am putting together a set of coins from 1880.
  • trozautrozau Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It'd be nice if they offered fractional gold buffalos. I'm trying to put together a type set of 1/10th ounce gold coins from around the world, and it would be nice to add a 24-karat buffalo to my maple leaf, panda, and eagle. >>


    If you are doing 1/10th 24KT gold, you can add the following to your list:
    a) Austrian Philharmonic
    b) Australian Kangaroo
    c) Australian Lunar gold
    + maybe
    a) Gibraltar Cherubs
    b) Isle of Man Cats
    c) Isle of Man Angel
    d) Singapore Lion
    trozau (troy ounce gold)
  • I remember reading about the fractionals' release this year also. The Mint's search feature isnt all that great.
  • GATGAT Posts: 3,146
    The Mint hasn't announced a starting date for the Buffalo fraational coins yet. Believe me it won't be a low mintage item and I pass on them. They are still selling 2006 Buffalos in 2007 and will sell the 2007 into 2008.
    USAF vet 1951-59
  • When they produce the fractionals for the buffalo, I will be getting a few sets for myself and my kids...just to have.

    Freak


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    << <i>It'd be nice if they offered fractional gold buffalos. I'm trying to put together a type set of 1/10th ounce gold coins from around the world, and it would be nice to add a 24-karat buffalo to my maple leaf, panda, and eagle. >>


    If you are doing 1/10th 24KT gold, you can add the following to your list:
    a) Austrian Philharmonic
    b) Australian Kangaroo
    c) Australian Lunar gold
    + maybe
    a) Gibraltar Cherubs
    b) Isle of Man Cats
    c) Isle of Man Angel
    d) Singapore Lion >>



    Ahhhh....... Thanks a bunch. I was wondering jsut how many were out there and from which countries. In reality, it doesn't need to be 24 KT gold. Any 1/10 ounce, "official" gold coin would look nice in my type set. image
    I collect the elements on the periodic table, and some coins. I have a complete Roosevelt set, and am putting together a set of coins from 1880.
  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    I think the 1/4 ounce ones would be especially popular. Sizewise, they'll look just like gold nickels. Nifty.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The Mint hasn't announced a starting date for the Buffalo fraational coins yet. Believe me it won't be a low mintage item and I pass on them. They are still selling 2006 Buffalos in 2007 and will sell the 2007 into 2008. >>



    There is one way they will be low mintage and that is if they get a late start like say November and then the next year the 2008 starts in say April. Then we have a winner. image
  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭


    << <i>Any 1/10 ounce, "official" gold coin would look nice in my type set. >>

    -This would look sharp in a custom Capitol Plastics Holder, once you find 15-20 different types.
  • I was looking through the price guide included in my latest copy of NN just last night. Under the gold buffalos, they listed prices for 2006 proof and unc for the $1, and they also listed proof, unc, and w-unc under each denomination for 2007. I've heard that they were issuing proof and unc in 2007 in each of 4 denominations, but I was surprised to see the 2007 w-unc listed there as well (as a place-holder).

    Do they know something that I don't?

    EAC member since 2011, one third of the way through my 1793 large cent type set
  • thanks,maybe i'll call the mint today .i know they will have the 2007 w this year in gold and silver,platinum too.i guess 2006 was the first year.thanks for the info.image
  • The Advisory committee recommended it in their December Meeting: See below:


    Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee CCAC
    801 Ninth Street, NW, Washington, DC 20220

    December 1, 2006

    The Honorable Henry M. Paulson, Jr.
    Secretary of the Treasury
    Department of the Treasury
    1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
    Washington, D.C. 20220


    Dear Secretary Paulson,

    A public meeting of the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee was held on November 14, 2006.

    The CCAC reviewed proposed designs for the 2008 issues of the Presidential Dollar Coin Program. The committee’s recommended designs are:

    James Monroe: JM-03
    John Quincy Adams: JQA-01
    Andrew Jackson: AJ-09
    Martin Van Buren: MVB-10

    The CCAC also recommends the proposed Indian/Buffalo theme and designs for the 2007 fractional issues of the Mint’s 24-Karat gold proof coin program in addition to the 24-Karat gold uncirculated coin program in all sizes.

    The CCAC voted unanimously to report that its second choice for the 2008 American Eagle Platinum Proof bullion coins, representing the Judicial branch of government, had been design J-6. Further, the CCAC had recommended that whichever design was chosen, the figure of Justice should be blindfolded.


    Sincerely,



    Mitch Sanders
    Chair
    "It's not that the Irish are cynical. It's simply that they have a wonderful lack of respect for everything and everybody." - Brendan Behan


    Proud Participant in Operation "Stone Holey" August 7, 2008
  • Also see the minutes of meeting Numbers 14, 15, and 16 (interesting to read about the presidential one dollar designs as well):


    Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee
    Public Meeting
    Tuesday, November 14 2006
    United States Mint Headquarters
    801 9th Street NW, 2nd Floor
    Washington, DC

    Attending:
    John Alexander
    Leon Billings
    Bill Fivaz
    Ute Wartenberg Kagan (via telephone)
    Rita Laws (via telephone)
    Mitch Sanders (chair)
    Donald Scarinci
    Ken Thomasma (via telephone)
    S. Joseph Winter

    1. Chairman Mitch Sanders called the meeting to order at 10:00 AM.
    2. The committee voted unanimously to approve the minutes of the CCAC’s September 28, 2006 meeting.
    3. Kaarina Budow of the United States Mint presented proposed designs for the 2008 issues of the Presidential dollar coin series. The 2008 dollar coins will honor James Madison, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, and Andrew Jackson.
    4. Ms Budow indicated that the designs under consideration employed a standard obverse template, which will be used throughout the series beginning in 2007.
    5. Members of the CCAC rated each proposed design using a scale from 0 points to 3 points, with higher numbers indicating more favorable ratings. The total of the individual rankings is used as the basis for the committee’s design recommendations.
    6. With nine members present and voting, the maximum possible rating was 27 points. The committee’s ratings of the proposed designs were as follows.

    Monroe Points Adams Points Jackson Points Van Buren Points
    JM-01 8 JQA-01 17 AJ-01 0 MVB-01 6
    JM-02 5 JQA-02 4 AJ-02 9 MVB-02 0
    JM-03 19 JQA-03 7 AJ-03 1 MVB-03 1
    JM-04 5 JQA-04 0 AJ-04 0 MVB-04 0
    JM-05 0 JQA-05 0 AJ-05 2 MVB-05 5
    JM-06 2 JQA-06 5 AJ-06 0 MVB-06 0
    JM-07 0 JQA-07 7 AJ-07 12 MVB-07 0
    JM-08 3 JQA-08 4 AJ-08 6 MVB-08 16
    JM-09 0 AJ-09 14 MVB-09 0
    JM-10 14 AJ-10 6 MVB-10 19
    JM-11 0


    7. For the coin featuring James Monroe, the CCAC’s recommendation is JM-03, which received 19 of a possible 27 points. A similar design, JM-10, is the committee’s 2nd choice.
    8. For the John Quincy Adams coin, the CCAC’s clear preference is for JQA-01.
    9. None of the designs for the Andrew Jackson coin received a strong endorsement from the committee. AJ-09, based on an image also featured on a $20 bill from the 20th century, received 14 points and is the CCAC’s recommendation. AJ-07, with 12 points, is the committee’s second choice.
    10. For the Martin Van Buren issue, the CCAC’s recommendation is MVB-10, with 19 points. The CCAC’s second choice, with 16 points, is the similar MVB-08.
    11. Regarding the coin’s reverse, Ms Budow indicated that the image of the Statue of Liberty used on the 2007 coins would be continued in 2008. Ms Budow, along with Greg Weinman of the United States Mint, indicated that the Mint is leaving the option open for a change of reverse design in the future, though there are no current plans for such a change.
    12. The CCAC discussed some general issues regarding the Presidential dollar coins. Several members noted that for the first eight issues (2007 and 2008), the results of the committee’s voting had shown a preference for images forward-facing images that depicted Presidents as they appeared during their term of office.
    13. Cliff Northup of the United States Mint informed the committee that the 2007 coins were in production, and that the designs would be revealed on Monday November 20.
    14. Ms. Budow then presented proposed themes and designs for fractional issues (half ounce, quarter ounce, tenth ounce) of the Mint’s 24-karat gold proof coin program. Mr Northup indicated that for 2007, the Mint planned to continue using the Indian/Buffalo design on one-ounce 24-karat pieces, and that the preferred course was to use the same design on the fractional issues, as well.
    15. The committee voted unanimously to approve the proposed themes and designs for 2007 for the 24-Karat gold one-ounce and fractional coins in both proof and uncirculated qualities.
    16. Kevin Hamer of the United States Mint informed the committee that the Mint was open to considering continuation of the Buffalo/Indian theme in future years, and was also open to exploring alternative themes. Mr Hamer also indicated that the Mint would be conducting research to determine its preferred course of action.
    17. The committee then turned to a discussion of its Annual Report for Fiscal Year 2006. The report is to contain the CCAC’s recommendation for numismatic commemoratives to be issued in the five-year period from 2007 to 2011. Current statutory authority allows two programs per year.
    18. The committee voted unanimously to recommend that one of the 2011 issues commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Peace Corps.
    19. The committee also agreed that the Annual Report would not include recommendations for commemoratives in years with two programs already enacted into law. The committee endorsed the following recommendations:
    2008: 150th anniversary of the birth of Theodore Roosevelt
    2008: 50th anniversary of NASA and JPL
    2010: 150th anniversary of the Pony Express/50th anniversary of Echo communications satellite
    2010: American Veterans Disabled for Life

    20. The committee discussed the possibility of recommending a circulating commemorative dime honoring the 250th anniversary of the birth of Alexander Hamilton in 2007, in addition to the regular Roosevelt dime.
    21. Mr Sanders moved that the committee should recommend a circulating commemorative dime in 2008, honoring the 150th anniversary of the birth of Theodore Roosevelt, to be coined in addition to the regular Roosevelt dime. Ms Laws moved that the previous motion should be amended by changing “in addition to” to “in addition to or replacing.” Due to lack of support, both motions were withdrawn.
    22. The committee voted unanimously to authorize the chair to exercise responsibility for completing the Annual Report, in consultation with any members who choose to consult with the chair at their initiative about the annual report, and then to circulate the draft for comment, not editing, at such point as he completes it.
    23. The chair announced that the CCAC’s recommended design for the 2008 platinum bullion coins is no longer a valid design candidate, for intellectual property reasons. The committee voted unanimously to empower the chair to inform the Secretary of the Treasury about the CCAC’s second and third choices for the 2008 platinum issue.
    24. The chair expressed the committee’s appreciation for the contributions of Leon Billings, who will be departing the CCAC due to the expiration of his term.
    25. The committee voted unanimously to authorize the chair to report the results of the CCAC’s preferences regarding Presidential dollar coin designs, to incorporate them into the minutes, and to send the results to the Secretary of the Treasury.
    26. There being no further business, the committee voted unanimously to adjourn, and the chair adjourned the meeting at 12:46 PM.

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    "It's not that the Irish are cynical. It's simply that they have a wonderful lack of respect for everything and everybody." - Brendan Behan


    Proud Participant in Operation "Stone Holey" August 7, 2008
  • thank you,do they plan on selling them in april,and do they have to stop selling them at the end of june,did congress say only for one year?image
  • Hear are some rare 1/10 oz on ebay they will never be available again.
    1/10 oz gold dragons
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,778 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When did the Mint announce that they were making fractional Buffalos? I must've missed that one... >>



    As I said in another thread, Coin World's online edition says that 2007-dated fractional Buffalo gold will be issued only in Proof and in BU-W, i.e., burnished planchet Uncirculated with the W mint mark. They will not be sold in bulk to dealers at the cheaper rates that fractional gold eagles are sold at. If you want one, you have to pay through the nose for one. Praise the Mint.

    The one ounce Buffalos will be sold in Proof, in BU-W and in regular uncirculated through bullion dealers.

    By the way, the Mint is sold out of 2006 regular uncirculated Buffalos. According to Coin World, an estimated 337,000 were sold.

    TD
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hear are some rare 1/10 oz on ebay they will never be available again. >>

    Well, at least until the next eBay auction. Spammer.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Hear are some rare 1/10 oz on ebay they will never be available again. >>

    Well, at least until the next eBay auction. Spammer. >>




    I was refraining for the sake of peace and prosperity. However since the cat is out of the bag:






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    "It's not that the Irish are cynical. It's simply that they have a wonderful lack of respect for everything and everybody." - Brendan Behan


    Proud Participant in Operation "Stone Holey" August 7, 2008
  • Litleeagle, the law specified that the buffalo design had to be made for 12 months. It did not specify that it could be made for ONLY 12 months. The Mint is free to continue the Buffalo design. The reaso the 12 provision was included was because they were not to go on sale until June and they didn't want the design to possibly only be in production for the last six months of 2006 and potentially create a rare item. For ages the mint took great care to try and make sure they didn't create any rarities. Then they changed and decided rarities were good, as long as the mint was marketing them and getting their cut.
  • thank you,will we be able to buy them from the mint or do we have to buy from a dealerimage
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,778 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>thank you,will we be able to buy them from the mint or do we have to buy from a dealerimage >>



    The Mint has decided to cut the dealers out of the loop so that they can sell them directly to the public at a higher price than the equivalent bullion-priced coins.
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • thanks,when do they go on saleimage
  • You're just full of questions on this aren't you? image The mint website does not say it only states when the 1oz proof goes on sale. Perhaps someone else has more enlightened information?
    "It's not that the Irish are cynical. It's simply that they have a wonderful lack of respect for everything and everybody." - Brendan Behan


    Proud Participant in Operation "Stone Holey" August 7, 2008

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