$3 and $1 wreath

westflorida · January 26, 2007 11:28AM

Does anyone see anything wrong with purchasing a coin that includes a wreath that includes tobacco?

mcheath · January 26, 2007 11:29AM

a gold piece and a pack of smokes sweet

mcheath · January 26, 2007 11:35AM

In all seriousness the depitction on the front of a race we diseased and slaughtered is much more offensive.

Connecticoin · January 26, 2007 11:57AM

<< Does anyone see anything wrong with purchasing a coin that includes a wreath that includes tobacco? >>

Where do these nuts come from?

westflorida · January 26, 2007 12:51PM

Please elaborate?

CaptHenway · January 26, 2007 1:20PM

<< Does anyone see anything wrong with purchasing a coin that includes a wreath that includes tobacco? >>

Only if you intend to smoke it.

ziggy29 · January 26, 2007 1:31PM

<< In all seriousness the depitction on the front of a race we diseased and slaughtered is much more offensive. >>

I don't think it's offensive to show American Indians on coinage per se (I am one legally, 1/4 degree in a Federally recognized tribe), but I do think it's incongruous to depict them on coinage when by law our coinage is supposed to show a symbol of "liberty." What the early British colonists and later the U.S. government did to the Indians over 300 years was hardly symbolic of "liberty."

Still, the past is the past, and hopefully we can learn from it and not repeat it. That's the best we can hope for.

RYK · January 26, 2007 1:38PM

<< Does anyone see anything wrong with purchasing a coin that includes a wreath that includes tobacco? >>

No one here is more anti-cigarette than I am (I see the ravages of smoking daily), but as for the symbol on the coin, I could not care less. I like these coins, so I buy them.

PerryHall · January 26, 2007 5:04PM

That is not a native american----it's a caucasian female wearing a feathered head dress. Native americans weren't shown on our coinage until 1908 when the $2 1/2 and the $5 Indian gold coins were issued.

drwstr123 · January 26, 2007 8:06PM

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<< Does anyone see anything wrong with purchasing a coin that includes a wreath that includes tobacco? >>

Where do these nuts come from?

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Good Lord, ain't it the truth! Mike

TorinoCobra71 · January 26, 2007 8:37PM

<< Does anyone see anything wrong with purchasing a coin that includes a wreath that includes tobacco? >>

No......

TorinoCobra71

ricko · January 27, 2007 1:14AM

Amazing... does the current PC fad have no end? What rubbish.... Cheers, RickO

westflorida · January 27, 2007 1:44AM

I appreciate the comments, even if some have criticized my post. I just won the auction below and I was researching the design of the coin, my question was not meant to be a joke.

http://coins.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=67013&Lot_No=25442

Thanks, Steve

planetsteve · January 27, 2007 2:16AM

Look at it this way. Who is being wronged by the purchase of this coin? Is there any chance that you are encouraging someone to smoke by buying it? I feel the answers to those are nobody and no, so my ethical calculation gives you the green light.

Another way to look at it is that coinage shows us what was considered important by our nation. One can collect something that promotes offensive messages -- I have a set of WWII Phillippine stamps with overprints made by the occupying Japanese -- without promoting the message themselves. I think it's quite interesting to see what messages were promoted by various groups at points in time. (I find the observation of the identity of the model on the obverse of this coin to be rather hilarious.)

When was the last time that tobacco appeared on our coinage?

topstuf · January 27, 2007 2:32AM

I always thought it was ivy. STEVE Ivy.

Longacre · January 27, 2007 11:33AM

<< Does anyone see anything wrong with purchasing a coin that includes a wreath that includes tobacco? >>

No. It is not important to me, although I don't support smoking.

CaptHenway · January 27, 2007 2:42PM

By the way, Rick Snow owns James B. Longacre's original wax model of this wreath. I sold it to him, along with the Indian Head used on the obverse, because the wreath was also used on the Flying Eagle Cent.
TD

$3 and $1 wreath

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