Error Coin, What is this error type called?

Stevecan · January 26, 2007 12:49AM

I'll try and get a couple of good pictures to show the error after work, but for now I'll do my best to describe it.

My wife uses a coin dispenser at work, and a coin had jammed up the action. When she pulled it out it was very odd.

Its a 2000 Virginia State Quarter (Philly) with no edge reeding, the edge is smooth and the ledge of the edge is at least double thick with a pronounced lip instead of the usual short shelf. It has a smooth radiused edge instead of flat reeded edge.

Any idea how common these are or what could cause it? I was thinking incorrect Planchet or edge pressing is just missing.

The obverse and reverse show full normal detail best I can tell. Interesting to note is that you can really tell the cladding thicknesses because of the lack of reeding.

Thanks in advance,

Steve L.

MadMarty · January 26, 2007 12:53AM

I have seen Kennedy Halves like that, they came out of slot machines.

ziggy29 · January 26, 2007 12:57AM

I would think that's post-mint damage such as from a vending machine or a coin counting machine. Then again, what's the diameter of the coin? Is it the same as a standard quarter or compressed a bit?

LALASD4 · January 26, 2007 12:58AM

Does it look like this broadstrike quarter?

Since it was struck out of collar, it has no reeding.

LickThoseStamps · January 26, 2007 1:02AM

I would agree with the out of collar strike. I found a 1965 quarter years ago that is exactly as you describe.

Cam40 · January 26, 2007 1:04AM

Stevecan · January 26, 2007 1:10AM

Thanks for all your thoughts, it doesn't look like your Cali quarter in that the coin is perfectly centered and even, and the ledge is much more pronounced.

I'll check the diameter of the coin with my calipers when I get home from work and report back.

If its damage from something, it did a good job of totally removing the reeding, and didn't scuff it up (its still smooth as silk)

Thanks again and check back later for pictures!

Steve L.

seanq · January 26, 2007 1:18AM

I have a West Virginia quarter sitting here on my desk, a coworker gave it to me when the laundry machine at his apartment kept refucing it. It also shows just a trace of reeding about 60 degrees around the coin, with a smooth edge otherwise. It is also slightly larger indiameter than a standard quarter, around .020" acording to my micrometer.

My coin (and I suspect yours) are termed 'partial collar strikes' for obvious reasons. If there is no trace of reeding at all on your coin, it would be considered a 'broadstrike'. I suspect, because the coin only expanded slightly beyond the normal diameter, that there is at least some trace of reeding on your coin.

Sean Reynolds

LickThoseStamps · January 26, 2007 1:21AM

<< <i>Thanks for all your thoughts, it doesn't look like your Cali quarter in that the coin is perfectly centered and even, and the ledge is much more pronounced.

I'll check the diameter of the coin with my calipers when I get home from work and report back.

If its damage from something, it did a good job of totally removing the reeding, and didn't scuff it up (its still smooth as silk)

Thanks again and check back later for pictures!

Steve L. >>

My 1965 was perfectly centered as well. You don't need calipers to check the diameter. Just place it in a stack of normal quarters and you immediately see that it is larger than the others. It would also explain why it jammed the machine.

Stevecan · January 26, 2007 8:02AM

Well, after much cussing and fighting with my camera and scanner, I resigned myself to using these crappy pictures. Can't seem to get it any better so I will just post them.

BTW, I did the caliper test on this coin and on a random bicentenial quarter and will post dimensions measured below.

Bicentenial quarter:

Smallest Diameter: .954
Largest Diameter: .956
Smallest Thickness: .066
Largest Thickness: .073

Virginia quarter (error?):

Smallest Diameter: .933
Largest Diameter: .936
Smallest Thickness: .083
Largest Thickness: .094

These were measured by sampling around the clock of the coin in very tiny increments.

Let me know if the pictures helped at all.

Thanks again,

Steve

LALASD4 · January 26, 2007 8:06AM

Damaged.

Pentimento · January 26, 2007 8:07AM

That last picture is blowing my mind, man.... How was it made?!?!

Stevecan · January 26, 2007 8:20AM

I held them in a stack as still as possible in a flat-bed scanner (HP950 all-in-one)

gonzer · January 26, 2007 8:40AM

I'd like to think it's struck as a partial collar through a grease-filled collar, but that's a stretch. Interesting.

fcloud · January 26, 2007 10:33AM

I vote Broadstruck. It just missed the collar therefore no reeds, and very minimal offset. Nice find.

seanq · January 26, 2007 11:32AM

From your data, it sounds like the VA quarter is smaller in diameter than the other coins, then it was damaged. Repeated tapping on the rim (often referred to as 'spooning') or some time getting bounced around in a washing machine could do the trick. Another give-away is the thickness of the copper on the edge, as the diameter is mechanically reduced the edge gets thicker and the copper core becomes more exposed.

Sean Reynolds

rich · January 26, 2007 11:50AM

I agree with Sean,Looks like it has damage from Laundery machine.I had a few coins with a "spooned "edge (rounded over like a wedding band).Years ago,Sailors on a long trip with spare time used to spend time by pounding the edge of a siver coin with a spoon and then drill it out to make a ring.A friend that works at a QuikWash says he pulls them out of the machines all the time that look like this.They get tumbled around and get strange looking

Error Coin, What is this error type called?

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