It's only $4,900 and 746 miles difference ????????????

holeinone1972 · January 19, 2007 12:57AM

OK, hold on to your hats, this story brought to you by the inept employees at your US postal service.

I sold (2) $100 W Platinum coins, unopened ready for 1st strike submittance to a board member here. They were packed and sent US Registered mail, the most secure, RIGHT?

They were supposed to go to Birmingham Alabama, they were delivered to a different Name, a different address and a DIFFERENT STATE!

WTF!!!!!!

So I get the message from my buyer who is rightfully losing it, wondering how the hell this happened?

I have been on the phone all day with the Michigan POst office and I have been screaming how the hell did this happen?

The postmaster up there is screaming how the hell did this happen.

I could partially understand if the address in Michigan was abc 123 the same as the address in Birmingham Alabama, but the address did not even match./ It was xxx 456, so how does this registered package insured for $4900 get to the wrong state, without detection, then get delivered to the wrong address without detection.

I am starting to believe I am cursed.

Barndog · January 19, 2007 12:58AM

the USPS sucks, I wish they had good competition in the coin arena

AUandAG · January 19, 2007 1:08AM

Anything sent registered is up for grabs in my humble opinion. I have sent 3 packages registered in the
past year. Two got there but one just plain disappeared completely. Yep, nobody can tell me where it
even went to. It shows that I handed it over to them here in Las Vegas. But, that's it. No explanation!
Maybe I should be more forgiving as it's only one out of three that got snagged. I think it must be a
carrot dangling in front of some employee's nose and once in a while (33%) it gets chomped on.
bob
PS: maybe I'm too hard on them?

techeff · January 19, 2007 1:11AM

the USPS sucks, I wish they had good competition in the coin arena

FedEx

410a · January 19, 2007 1:28AM

I dont' think FED EX is something we can use unless we have
our own insurance. The USPS has paid me and others that I have
done business with when packages have been lost. As a matter of
fact more than the contents were worth and because they felt
obligated to do so. It's too bad and unfortunate you lost or had
the packages misdirected, but it is not the norm. Hope all works out.

relicsncoins · January 19, 2007 1:28AM

I've always been a little suspect of how the PO, puts big ol' insured and registered stickers on the package. That's just inviting a dishonest person to steal it. I think they would be better served if that info. was coded in the postage mark or a barcode that could be matched to your reciept.

JJ

tmot99 · January 19, 2007 1:29AM

There is no 100% safe way. My opinion is that Registered mail is the best option.

I've had a company credit card lost by UPS, I've had $5000 packages lost by FedEx. I've had PCGS lose $4000 worth of coins by shipping USPS Express Mail. I personally haven't had a Registered Mail package lost, but obviously others have.

I don't know of a better option other than handing it to the appropriate person face to face.

holeinone1972 · January 19, 2007 1:30AM

Sure they money it is insured for will be covered, but what about when these coins start going for 4, 6 or 10 K each.

Major bummer.

I know it is a small fraction of items shipped this way that get lost, but this is 2 of my packages in the last 3 months.

Crazy.

CC2GO · January 19, 2007 1:39AM

<< they were delivered to a different Name, a different address and a DIFFERENT STATE! >>

The US Mint shipped me some W-Platinums 3 weeks ago using Registered Mail
and I still haven't received them!!!

TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE....the Tracking #'s provided by the Mint
are invalid and my Post Office can't track the package!

airplanenut · January 19, 2007 1:42AM

The difference is someone could be in very deep doodoo after losing this package.

As for the shipment from the Mint, one for me took at least 2 weeks--they're very, very slow.

CC2GO · January 19, 2007 1:46AM

Imagine the look on the face of the recipient
when they opened the package!

DUIGUY · January 19, 2007 1:46AM

Next day express ! No time for " Tom " foolery . Of course being delivered to the correct address is a BIG plus !

holeinone1972 · January 19, 2007 1:47AM

<< The difference is someone could be in very deep doodoo after losing this package.

As for the shipment from the Mint, one for me took at least 2 weeks--they're very, very slow. >>

Feel bad for this carrier. First they got the wrong state, but then an address that is not even close in wording or numbers, then they delivered it and had a person sign it whose name is not even in the same language.

UUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

techeff · January 19, 2007 1:59AM

I dont' think FED EX is something we can use unless we have
our own insurance. The USPS has paid me and others that I have
done business with when packages have been lost. As a matter of
fact more than the contents were worth and because they felt
obligated to do so. It's too bad and unfortunate you lost or had
the packages misdirected, but it is not the norm. Hope all works out.

Some dealers use fed ex as their first choice.

ziggy29 · January 19, 2007 3:24AM

<< FedEx >>

Can't deliver to a PO Box.

techeff · January 19, 2007 3:27AM

Can't deliver to a PO Box.

Move into a house...

ziggy29 · January 19, 2007 3:28AM

<< Move into a house...

>>

I don't know. I kinda like it inside my PO Box.

Actually I do get some coins delivered at home, but I can understand that for security reasons a lot of people don't want their physical addresses known, so they will only accept coin shipments to the PO Box. For that, the USPS *is* a monopoly.

techeff · January 19, 2007 3:43AM

but I can understand that for security reasons a lot of people don't want their physical addresses known

I do agree with that...

123cents · January 19, 2007 3:43AM

Last year I had a coin I bought left on the doorstep of women in another state with a different last name by UPS. The woman was nice enough to call UPS to pick up the coin and I finally got it after a 3 weeks wait.

CC2GO · January 19, 2007 3:47AM

.......

foxxze · January 19, 2007 7:56AM

I am new here -
can someone pleze , in plain English : explain to me in simple terms

If a registered package is insured up to 25k automaticly by sending said package Registered
, then why must I buy additional insurance against loss ??
Even postal employees cant give me a straight answer !!
They will say IF you don`t pay the additional insurance fee for declared value and
the Registered package is lost - THEN YOU RECIEVE NO MONEY`S BACK !!!!!!!!

dbldie55 · January 19, 2007 7:58AM

<< I am new here -
can someone pleze , in plain English : explain to me in simple terms

If a registered package is insured up to 25k automaticly by sending said package Registered
, then why must I buy additional insurance against loss ??
Even postal employees cant give me a straight answer !!
They will say IF you don`t pay the additional insurance fee for declared value and
the Registered package is lost - THEN YOU RECIEVE NO MONEY`S BACK !!!!!!!! >>

You have to pay for insurance, it is not insured automatically up to 25k.

foxxze · January 19, 2007 8:05AM

Thank you DD`55 ;

but what then is covered automaticly up to 25,000.00$ ?

holeinone1972 · January 19, 2007 8:23AM

<< Thank you DD`55 ;

but what then is covered automaticly up to 25,000.00$ ? >>

Nothing. The receipts seems to be worded very poorly.

holeinone1972 · January 22, 2007 5:01AM

All is well that ends well.

My buer just called with good news. The package arrived unopened to him. YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been all over the Michigan post office all morning about how could they possible do this.

Well lo and behold my buyer is VERY happy, and I am releaved that the stress is over.

The postal carrier in Michigan is probably happiest.

A happy ending, YEAH!!!

LALASD4 · January 22, 2007 5:07AM

How did the package get there?

I used to have letters delivery to me regularly that is for someone else in PA and I live in CA, not once not twice but REGULARLY, the Post Office can be strange at times.

planetsteve · January 22, 2007 5:16AM

<< I've always been a little suspect of how the PO, puts big ol' insured and registered stickers on the package. That's just inviting a dishonest person to steal it. I think they would be better served if that info. was coded in the postage mark or a barcode that could be matched to your reciept.

JJ >>

Registered travels separately from other USPS mail. The whole point of the labeling is to ensure that it travels under lock and key.

Everyone's got an anecdote that makes a carrier look bad. I got back from a trip and found out from tracking that Fedex had driven my package out every morning in the wrong neighborhood in the wrong state for six working days in a row. "Could not locate recipient" showed over and over again in the history. I was irate, but as with the OP, the problem was solved with a couple of phone calls.

holeinone1972 · January 22, 2007 5:25AM

Believe me I am thrilled. I bet the carrier is too, because it showed that the carrier delivered it, to the wrong, person, place and state. So they are now off the hook.

Rob

LALASD4 · January 22, 2007 5:27AM

So it was just a data entry error?

COINB0Y · January 22, 2007 5:27AM

Wow, what a story! Glad it worked out!

morgansforever · January 22, 2007 5:44AM

<<OK, hold on to your hats, this story brought to you by the inept employees at your US postal service.>>

I feel your pain. The PO lost 50 ASE's I sold to a buyer. The Eagles were insured, customer wasn't home, so the mailman left a notice. The coins made it back to the PO, and mysteriously vanished. I have been waiting for a month for a response from St. Louis. A rep told me, it could take as long as 6 months before I'm refunded. So now I eat hundereds of dollars, somebody must of had a good day, free silver yahoooooooooooo. I'm glad to see your coins made it to the right place.

holeinone1972 · January 22, 2007 5:53AM

<< So it was just a data entry error? >>

Not sure, and I don't really care. I am just gald my buyer is glad and we don't have to wait months for the money.

I have been waiting 2 months for a member here to return my money on another lost coin, but thankfully it is only like $85

I sure could use the cash though.

Rob

GoldenEyeNumismatics · January 22, 2007 8:14AM

crazy!

It's only $4,900 and 746 miles difference ????????????

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