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Die Progression for the 1825 Capped Bust Quarters...Pretty cool even if your not interested in this
elwood
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Here's a neat little die progression. (I've shown this before but improved the images and added a new earlier die stage.)
The first pic shows the beginning of the Die crack from the T over to the D and from the D to the rim.
I like the stage where you can still see UNITED through the Deteriorating Die.
Last pic is terminal.
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That's a pretty big cud.
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<< <i>Hey, Elwood, I have one of those 1825/4 quarters >>
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I use to think of there being only three stages. 1 (early)....2 (mid)....3 (late)
But then I found the coin in the first image which I hadn't seen before so now I have examples of 4 different die states (excluding a perfect state)
So, I guess I would consider yours a Stage 2
Yours is sweet!!! You just dont't see these in any grade let alone high grade.
Nysoto
It's fully struck.
Cuds are awesome.
thanks
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I'd be interested in your opinion of the relative rarities of the die states...
and did you have to pay much of a premium for the (i think) more interesting later die states?
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<< <i>I'd be interested in your opinion of the relative rarities of the die states... >>
Baley...the mid and late die states appear to be the rarest. Reiver had them all other than the terminal state. Although I have been able to pick up a couple of them (terminals) over the years.
Rarity would probably be a high R-6 low R-7?
<< <i>and did you have to pay much of a premium for the (i think) more interesting later die states? >>
Yes
<< <i>Would this one be considered a retained cud or no? >>
Cladiator
I believe they would be considered retained cuds. The one you have pictured might still be partially attached or completely detached but angled in a way that UNITED was still partially stuck?
The fact that the coin is evenly struck would indicate a retained cud. I believe that the reverse would have been part of the anvil die and not the hammer die? I'm no expert on the minting process however??? The ones I've seen are all nicely struck but a friend has seen one weakly struck that might indicate the piece of the die actually fell out of the collar??
<< <i>Ooooo, that's my favorite one! Sell me that coin!! >>
Sorry Baley they aren't for sale. There are only three maybe four collectors who have a complete set. A set being the 3 major stages. I actually just sold an extra terminal die state I had so a Quarter collector could complete his set.
Thanks for the questions and interest!!!
steve
Maybe for the next similar thread you can post the 1825/3 cuds.
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Almost makes one want to collect just this coin by die state.
Thanks for this post