I hate criminals!!!!

Newcomp103 · January 11, 2007 6:36AM

I sold a Morgan to another forum member last week...he just sent me an email saying that all that was in the package was the bill of sale NO MORGAN! There is proof that someone went into the package because he said that it shows when someone cut into the box. I did have it insured, but has this ever happened to anyone else? What is the process from this point???? Help!

MoneyCollector · January 11, 2007 6:40AM

I had a buffalo stolen out of a FedEx box. Tore a small opening in the box and covered it up with theat big ol' sticker they stick on there. It does happen - its part of our welfare system here in the States!

DUIGUY · January 11, 2007 6:41AM

I send coins next day express instead of registered. This does not give crooks time to dig around .

jmski52 · January 11, 2007 6:41AM

You have to file a claim at the Post Office. They will investigate before paying it. It will take some time.

dragon · January 11, 2007 6:44AM

Make sure to save the packaging as evidence.

notwilight · January 11, 2007 6:53AM

How did you ship it and how would someone know there was a coin or something valuable in the package? Criminals don't usually cut into packages at random.

Cladiator · January 11, 2007 6:53AM

<< It will take some time. >>

Understatement of the century.

Newcomp103 · January 11, 2007 7:01AM

Sent it Priority 2-3 day with delivery confirmation and insurance...I was in my house when I put it in the package...So...the birds and dogs would have been the only ones that saw what was in there.

grabba · January 11, 2007 7:19AM

I hate that!

I've had it happen a couple of times to me but it wasn't worth the time and effort or value to pursue it.

ricko · January 11, 2007 8:18AM

I received an empty package once (supposedly had a gold coin)... but the seller had shipped three others the at the same time.. and all of us received empty packages. He made good on the deal. Cheers, RickO

notwilight · January 11, 2007 8:32AM

<< Sent it Priority 2-3 day with delivery confirmation and insurance...I was in my house when I put it in the package...So...the birds and dogs would have been the only ones that saw what was in there. >>

Then likely someone on the other end has figured out that the buyer gets a lot of coins. Or else the buyer is really an insurance scammer. I'm not accusing anyone but bringing up the possibilities.

gyocomgd · January 11, 2007 8:43AM

The lesson--not that I follow it myself all the time--is to use the small priority shipping box rather than an envelope/mailer. Place strips of packing tape along the seams. The cost is the same, and it pretty much takes tampering out of the game. Plus, you get the boxes free at the post office.

Newcomp103 · January 11, 2007 8:44AM

<< Then likely someone on the other end has figured out that the buyer gets a lot of coins. Or else the buyer is really an insurance scammer. I'm not accusing anyone but bringing up the possibilities. >>

I talked to him earlier...said some not very nice things about his postman...If someone took it, it was probably him...again, not accusing, but he said there have been problems with this particular mailman in the past...as well as with others in his neighborhood...the post office also said they are going to check the lost and found for the day...something about a machine that these packages get processed with...it may have caused it to open also...we will see what happens.

gyocomgd · January 11, 2007 8:50AM

<< The lesson--not that I follow it myself all the time--is to use the small priority shipping box rather than an envelope/mailer. Place strips of packing tape along the seams. The cost is the same, and it pretty much takes tampering out of the game. Plus, you get the boxes free at the post office. >>

I just reread you post and see you did use a box. How about that. Seems something foul is definitely afoot.

53BKid · January 11, 2007 9:00AM

<< Sent it Priority 2-3 day with delivery confirmation and insurance...I was in my house when I put it in the package...So...the birds and dogs would have been the only ones that saw what was in there. >>

Not to be paranoid, but something the UPS guy said to me in December when I received my ASE sets 'A bit heavier than usual', gave me a chill. The guys at the local post office know me from sending out and picking up registered packages, insured for relatively high amounts. . If you do enough business, people take note.

Sorry to hear about the theft

TwoSides2aCoin · January 11, 2007 9:02AM

I send decoys

cfisch · January 11, 2007 9:11AM

Wow, I never realized that these thefts occur from the post office! I need to be more careful.

carl · January 11, 2007 10:00AM

Too many possibilities. I have sent numerous coins through the mail. I never tell the postal people there are coins in the packages. If they do ask I say just some bomb making material. They laugh and keep on going. I've only had one person ever tell me something I sent did not make it. The package had a hole in it. I found that hard to beleive since I taped the living heck out of the 2x2 the coin was in, taped the 2x2 to a hunk of cardboard and taped it to the inside of the package. The package would have had to be distroyed to get the coin out. I know there are lot of bad stories about out postal people but as a general rule, I trust them before most of the so called normal, everyday people I've met in society.

LindeDad · January 11, 2007 10:10AM

Before we brand them all. Remember that many of our Postal employees are veterns or retired military. And one bad apple isn't cause to blame them all. And those postal inspecters do find the bad ones and they do jail time for the thefts. It was in the news recently.
JMO

Rampage · January 11, 2007 10:12AM

<< Too many possibilities. I have sent numerous coins through the mail. I never tell the postal people there are coins in the packages. If they do ask I say just some bomb making material. They laugh and keep on going. I've only had one person ever tell me something I sent did not make it. The package had a hole in it. I found that hard to beleive since I taped the living heck out of the 2x2 the coin was in, taped the 2x2 to a hunk of cardboard and taped it to the inside of the package. The package would have had to be distroyed to get the coin out. I know there are lot of bad stories about out postal people but as a general rule, I trust them before most of the so called normal, everyday people I've met in society. >>

You are lucky all they do is laugh it off, even though it is not the least bit funny. Saying something like that these days (joking or not) is a ticket to prison.

AUandAG · January 11, 2007 10:16AM

Be very careful as to where you mail them. The location that is your drop off point is
the suspect for theft. A simple comment at the counter or in line can be a give away
as to what you mail. Then they just wait for you to hand it over and snag it. We use
several mail drops to mail from and never talk to employees about what is in the
package when we insure. We lie and tell them some garbage that nobody wants.
Just be very careful. good luck,
bob

coindeuce · January 11, 2007 10:42AM

If you shipped the item during the peak of the holiday season, and it passed through a GMF in a major city, chances are that a part time postal employee(and there are a lot of temps nationwide during the holiday season) got an extra Christmas present this year. I would recommend as others have that you ship even minimal value coins in a Priority box if using U.S.P.S. And it doesn't hurt to double box any item. Considering that you've stated the addressee received the package, it obviously remained in the postal mailstream. It's obvious to me where to begin suspecting that the loss took place.

I hate criminals!!!!

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