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When you are buying a coin what do you look for....?

What are the FIVE most important qualities you use to determine if the coin is right for you...??

ASSUMING it's a coin you need and can afford...
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    tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Do I want the coin, strike, minimum amount of marks, original surfaces, luster

    Tom
    Tom

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    Being poor like I am, you have to have price somewhere in your top 5.. I have seen many coins I would love to have, but price ended up being the deciding factor.... Oh to be poor....
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    DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Eye appeal for the price/grade, eye appeal for the price/grade, eye appeal for the price/grade, strike, original surfaces.
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eye appeal
    Originality
    Pedigree
    Do I need it for a set?
    Value

    The order of these may vary, depending on the coin in question
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    saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭
    1) Surfaces...are they natural, original?
    2) Hits...are they prominent, hidden, too many?
    3) Strike...is it good?
    4) Color...is it a pretty coin?
    5) Overall quality relative to the mintage. Very Important!

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    IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    1) Prefence is unslabbed
    2) Is it comparable to my other coins in the set
    3) Non-messed with
    4) How much pleasure will I derive from owning it
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    6) How it ranks on the FatMan Coolness Scale™
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    1) No toning....I like my silver coins blast white other coins must look natural.

    2) Check to see if its over graded, in my opinion, if so I pass.

    3) Check to see how strong the strike is and any wear in the key areas of the coin.

    4) I check to see if the slab has been tampered with or if it is too scratched up for proper viewing.

    5) Ask myself if I should save a little more and go one more grade up.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    all I really need to know:

    -do I need this die marriage for my collection?
    -is it better than the one I currently have?
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    Mintage is my number one...if it is rare I want it...condition goes from there...I would rather have one coin from each series and I would likt it to be the rarest of the series....I know that I can not have them all because of price but I get what I can....just buy the keys baby buy the keys.
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    saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭
    Laura??image
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    LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    1. Originality
    2. Lustre
    3. Strike
    4. Rarity
    5. Cost relative to 1-4 above.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I understood the question correctly... the 'buying' part already eliminates whether it is a 'fit' (need etc.) for the collection ... soooo...
    - Condition (hits, damage, etc)
    - Eye appeal
    - Price
    - Scarcity (i.e. other sources)
    - Dealer attitude
    Cheers, RickO

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    sweetwillietsweetwilliet Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭
    Well, I'd have to say:

    1) originality
    2) prefer PCGS slabbed, but open to others
    3) depth/clarity of mirrors (wonder what I collect?)
    4) no distracting hits or toning for the grade
    5) price- must be in my budget
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    saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭
    I agree with the PCGS slab, as much as it is prejudicial, it is something that I just MUST have.

    I have seen too many NGC coins not meet market standards or market prices to say otherwise.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess I should not forget to talk about the person selling the coin.

    I need to trust that person and his/her motives.
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    My Top Five?

    Value
    Value
    Value
    Value
    Do I have the Money
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    CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    The number one reason I will buy a coin is opportunity. If a coin is rarely available, it does not need to be perfect as perfect for that issue might not exist or ever present itself in my collecting lifetime. I don't have many date missing in my prooflike Morgan collection but of the vacancies, more are common ones that appear in every major auction and can be found acceptably at any given time than true rarities (which only number three -- 83-S, 93-S and 21-S) at this time. Absolute rarity is number one in my book.

    However, when I am looking for that right specimen for a less rare date, a semikey for instance, I seek out the exceptional example in terms of positive attributes, one that does not share the problems typical of most of the pack for the date. Naturally, eye appeal is number one here. Clean surfaces is important (especially got those magnifying mirrors of DMPLs) which translates to higher technical grade and, unfortunately, escalating cost. Strike follows that. Strike is critical for most of my VAMs as the notable features are often seen proportional to the level of the strike. Originality and lustre are one and the same in my book and quite important. I could not care less about pedigree for my coins. Yes, it is interesting history but the previous owners and their cabinets is so peripheral to the coin that I dismiss it entirely as a burden on the price more than anything else.

    A last word on technical grade....I am not a huge fan of always going for the top grade available for a coin. There are many cases where I see that as foolish for many collectors. I would prefer to have a near gem (well-struck PQ 64) over a blah technical gem at a fraction of the cost any day of the week. To think of the broken budgets because of those kinds of purchases that reduces the options for other coins in peoples' collections is sobering reality. One thing I am fond of is doing date sets in AU58, very select AU58. Often a coin with just a little insignificant rub is superior in eye appeal to nearly all technical uncirculated examples of a given date. The 1884-S Morgan is a pet favorite to bring up. FInd a well-struck and lustrous AU58 with some PL originality extant and it beats the pants off of 90% of the mint state dogs.
    Select Rarities -- DMPLs and VAMs
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    pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,840 ✭✭✭
    perfection or something close to it. 69's just don't do it for me.
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    MadMonkMadMonk Posts: 3,743
    Eye Appeal, to me, is the sum of all the other "descriptors" such as surfaces, originality, color, luster, etc.
    I can forgive strike to a some degree, usually depending on the issue year, mint, etc.
    Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For most series, it's about the condition and eye appeal of the coin. Depending on what metal or alloys were used and the methods that were in placed at the time a coin was made, the farther back in history we go, the more crude the minting process gets when they made coins. From the 1850's and up, for most series along that timeline, locating a fully struck coin was not a major problem. As the call to produce more coins to meet the demand of our economy, commerce and population growth, the production of coins dramatically increased, this is the one factor that has played a role in producing subpar struck coins but nonetheless, fully struck examples for most series have always been readily available to the collectors. But for the nickel alloy series dating back to whenever they began using this mixture of metals to produce coins, quite possibly back to the 3 cent pieces, the striking of the coin has always been a problem. So for Jefferson nickels, my specialty, it's the completeness of the strike that comes first and foremost before the condition/grade of the coin. The eye appeal is important as well but to locate an early die state Jefferson nickel, even though it may be banged up a bit/low grade and/or missing the luster or toning that would make it a better coin, there's something about the completion of the strike that makes this coin stand out.
    As if it were an antique of some sort.

    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

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    1) eye appeal
    2) price
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Eye appeal
    2. Problem-free status
    3. The right "look", which means lustre in Mint State coins and natural tone/grime in circs.
    4. Is it the grade (or close to) what I'm targeting?
    5. Price
    When in doubt, don't.
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    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,343 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What are the FIVE most important qualities you use to determine if the coin is right for you...?? >>


    #1. Die Marriage
    #2. Overall Eye Appeal
    #3. Surface Condition
    #4. Amount of Wear
    #5. Strike Quality
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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First and most important is the story!!!! This kinda sets the mood whether I'm interested in the qualities of the coin. Heh Heh
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
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    Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭
    In order:

    1. Strike -Must be nearly full to full, if known at that coin
    2. Surfaces -As original as possible
    3. Hits-Any too prominent?
    4. Luster-Full or not?
    5. Overal eye-appeal
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    Eye appeal is my main purchasing point. Followed by price.
    Bob
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    1. Lack of porosity
    2. Minimal verdigris
    3. no major dings/holes
    4. Good strike.
    4.5 Date/die variety
    5. Room on my credit card.
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    dcamp78dcamp78 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭
    I try to find coins that I need to complete series. I try to get every coin at VF+ AND it must fit into my budget.
    I don't have any slabbed coins, so I buy all raw coins. I like the tactile sensation of holding it in my hands.
    I always wish I could see where the coin has been and who may have touched it, especially the older coins.
    If only they could talk...
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    pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭✭
    1. No rim nicks
    2. No adjustment marks
    3. Good strike
    4. Nice color/eye appeal (original?)
    5. Price
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    CaptainRonCaptainRon Posts: 1,189 ✭✭
    When I first see it does it make think: Wow or Cool
    When I look at it again, a short time later, does it still have the same effect.


    Nothing else matters to me.... It use to.... And these are the coins I have either allready flipped, or will.

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    09sVDB09sVDB Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭
    If its the type of coin I want to own
    Is it the best condition I can afford
    originality
    long term potential
    if certified : by whom
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    NicNic Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Original surfaces
    2. Eye appeal
    3. Luster
    4. Grade- based on marks
    5. Grade-based on strike

    K
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    RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608
    1) Value (not price), I'm interesting in a lot of coins at a good price. At a high price, there are very, very few that I want.
    2) Do I like the coin? (eye appeal, cool factor)
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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I tend to not follow traditional rules.

    1. If I need the coin for the set and the price is right I will get it as a place holder (can always sell it in a PCGS slab, usually anyway).
    2. Spend stupid money to replace the placeholder with an eye catching dazzler.
    3. If none are available stick with the place holder.
    4. When I need money sell the set for 80% of what I bought it for because the market dipped right when I decided to sell.
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    silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One: eye appeal

    Two:anything usual about the coin (die cracks,ETC)

    Three: country

    fourimageesign

    Fiveimageon't have in my collection yet

    don't count your chickens before they're hatched

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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    1. Eye appeal
    2. Originality
    3. Strike
    4. Overall marks consistent with grade

    That's basically it.
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,230 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love this thead. Interesting to see all the different perspectives.

    While ideals will vary, can anyone argue why saint's #1 isn't THE #1 ?



    << <i>1) Surfaces...are they natural, original? >>



    Just askin'.

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    bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1) Surfaces...are they natural, original?
    2) Hits...are they prominent, hidden, too many?
    3) Strike...is it good?
    4) Color...is it a pretty coin?
    5) Overall quality relative to the mintage. Very Important! >>

    All factors in EYE APPEAL.image
    Great coins are not cheap,and cheap coins are not great!
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    1. Profit.
    2. Profit.
    3. Profit.
    4. Profit.
    5. Profit.

    Russ, NCNE
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    CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    LOL, Russ. I was waiting for a first strike acceptable postmark or milk spots from someone on here.
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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Rarity
    2. Is it an inventory coin or a collection coin?
    3. If it is an inventory coin, do I have a reasonable expectation of selling the coin at a profit?
    4. Eye appeal
    5. Price

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    CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭
    1. Eye appeal relative to other coins of like grade

    2. Eye appeal relative to technical grade. In other words, did it get a bump for being pretty–if so the price usually reflects a double dip premium

    3. Price relative to 1 through 3

    CG

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