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Counterfeit Bust Dollar for sale on eBay by Savabbah "estate" seller

Coin is crude 1796 forgery being sold in private auction closing Xmas Day under eBay 1700 6399 3235 with 10 PM Xmas Eve bid of $705, by one of the Savannah, Georgia estate scams. Bidders might be fictitious because the price seems somewhat high for such a crude forgery.

I hope one of the dealers or better connected collectors can get ahold of Craigslist to cancel the sale and start an investigation of the seller.
Best wishes to all, and to those in Denver, may your Christmas stockings be filled with lumps of coal (low sulpher of course).

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,787 ✭✭✭✭✭
    reported.
    check out the other fake 1796 dollars from Afghanistan.
    td
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  • GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085
    linky for a piece of garbage image
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  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭
    I find it funny that the 'garbage' is offered by 'estatedoctor'.

    All his auctions are private.

    She's had 8 negatives in the past month, most of which are very harsh calling her a thief, scam artist and 'out of her mind!!!
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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I find it funny that the 'garbage' is offered by 'estatedoctor'. All his auctions are private. She's had 8 negatives in the past month, most of which are very harsh calling her a thief, scam artist and 'out of her mind!!! >>



    Actually it is mostly his replies calling the feeback leavers "out of [theri] mind[s]". The one that was a for a counterfeit coin was mutually withdrawn apparently after refund was given. There is much more positive feedback than negative. I wouldn't be afraid to bid on something I thought was real.

    Estate sellers know a little about a lot of things but often have holes in their knowledge. My dad used to make good money at estate sales by knowing more about the merchandise than the seller did. It is likely that this seller has no knowledge of coins.

    --Jerry
  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I find it funny that the 'garbage' is offered by 'estatedoctor'. All his auctions are private. She's had 8 negatives in the past month, most of which are very harsh calling her a thief, scam artist and 'out of her mind!!! >>



    Actually it is mostly his replies calling the feeback leavers "out of [theri] mind[s]". The one that was a for a counterfeit coin was mutually withdrawn apparently after refund was given. There is much more positive feedback than negative. I wouldn't be afraid to bid on something I thought was real.

    Estate sellers know a little about a lot of things but often have holes in their knowledge. My dad used to make good money at estate sales by knowing more about the merchandise than the seller did. It is likely that this seller has no knowledge of coins.

    --Jerry >>





    I think Jim & Pam Donnelly know exactly what they are doing.
  • BigDaddyzBigDaddyz Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭
    I'm pretty sure this person is Pamela Donnelly ... aka Scamela from a couple years ago. Shut down for several months for selling fakes.
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  • Really sad, how many complaints need to be filed in order for ebay to do something.

    I think the really sad part is, how many collectors are sitting on $800 fake coins thinking they got a deal and don't know how to tell the difference.

    Hmmmm.......$800 = a coin worth $100k, NOT!!!!!

    Everyone should take time out to report these items to ebay.
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  • << <i>There is much more positive feedback than negative. I wouldn't be afraid to bid on something I thought was real.

    Estate sellers know a little about a lot of things but often have holes in their knowledge. My dad used to make good money at estate sales by knowing more about the merchandise than the seller did. It is likely that this seller has no knowledge of coins.

    --Jerry >>



    This is an obvious scammer with a long history and a trail of scorched earth.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>There is much more positive feedback than negative. I wouldn't be afraid to bid on something I thought was real. Estate sellers know a little about a lot of things but often have holes in their knowledge. My dad used to make good money at estate sales by knowing more about the merchandise than the seller did. It is likely that this seller has no knowledge of coins. --Jerry >>

    This is an obvious scammer with a long history and a trail of scorched earth. >>



    Ok. I was just going on recent feedback. Then this would then be the scammer using estate seller as an alias. Past performance over a long period of time is a better indicater. They must have quite a few things they sell legitimately with good feedback and then sprinkle in a few fake coins to drag down their reputation...doesn't seem like a very good business plan to me--even for a dishonest person. Also, thanks for the e-mails I got form esteemed ex-members here. Thanks, Jerry
  • GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085
    Scamella is still up and running. Too bad this auction not been shut down yet. I guess the possee here that know how to do something about it are not around today. The high bidder is about to receive coal in their stocking from Mrs. Grinch who has the nerve to wish a Merry Christmas...sad image
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  • Yeah, the beeatch lists them under Private auctions so we can't warn her victims anymore. image

    Her feedback: Feedback for The Savannah Scumbag

    If I only had a dollar for every VAM I have...err...nevermind...I do!! image

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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    22 negs, with at least 50 more that have been mutually withdrawn.

    Never seen so many withdrawn feedbacks.

    When will people learn???

    The chance of winning a good deal on E-Bay is so much less than Vegas, and at least in Vegas you get free liquor when your winning or losing.
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  • GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085
    Wow $1,525.00 winning bid...nice take for a couple of bucks outlay...and the beat goes on...image
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    I like the bottom of the bid history


    Bid retraction and cancellation history

    Bidder Action / Explanation Date of Bid and Retraction
    private listing -- bidders' identities protected Cancelled: US $7,000.00
    Explanation: problematic ebayer Bid: Dec-25-06 07:36:58 PST
    Cancelled: Dec-25-06 08:02:42 PST




  • And it appears that somehow, eBay allowed pjd1966 to be reregistered to someone else, so all that fabulous old history is, well, history. Does she have nude pictures of Meg Whitman or something? This gal is bulletproof!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,502 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm pretty sure this person is Pamela Donnelly ... aka Scamela from a couple years ago. Shut down for several months for selling fakes. >>



    I'm thinking the same thing!

    Interesting repeat replies: IF YOU BELIEVE HIM BUY YOUR ITEMS FROM HIM AND NOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    For the newbies, the only reference link I could find is here but it "Looks all good to me!"
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,787 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>linky for a piece of garbage image >>



    Gee, fake badges and cathouse tokens and a genuine chastity belt! Don't forget to check out his 1796 Half Cent!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Estate-Lot-Of-4-Raw-Old-Colonial-Era-Tokens_W0QQitemZ170063333744QQihZ007QQcategoryZ3455QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    LOL
    TD
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,787 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>linky for a piece of garbage image >>



    Gee, fake badges and cathouse tokens and a genuine chastity belt! Don't forget to check out his 1796 Half Cent!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Estate-Lot-Of-4-Raw-Old-Colonial-Era-Tokens_W0QQitemZ170063333744QQihZ007QQcategoryZ3455QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    LOL
    TD >>




    ttt
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