<< <i>I miss Darin5's posts and his eBay auctions. He has not been doing either since fuddernutting piece of elmo Fletcher acted like a here kitty kitty! >>
<< <i>"I miss Darin5's posts and his eBay auctions. He has not been doing either since fuddernutting piece of elmo Fletcher acted like a here kitty kitty!"
<< <i>I miss Darin5's posts and his eBay auctions. He has not been doing either since fuddernutting piece of elmo Fletcher acted like a here kitty kitty!
<< <i>"I miss Darin5's posts and his eBay auctions. He has not been doing either since fuddernutting piece of elmo Fletcher acted like a here kitty kitty!"
is english not your first language? >>
I don't know what's funnier, a039's post or classiccoin's response.
Just for the record, I haven't read this thread all the way through.........BUT, there's a good chance no one has stolen the coin from the mail. A couple of years ago I bought a half-dime off of Ebay and never received it and went through all kinds of hassle.
The damn thing showed up in my mail almost a year later, and postmarked on the day she said she mailed it. Who knows why it was lost in the postal service for so long, but she did in fact mail it when she said she did.
Cheryl........."She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot." - Mark Twain
Cherwood ... I agree. That was not the issue in this particular case. The ONLY issue was how long should a buyer have to wait for a refund when a coin does not show up and whether a refusal to provide a refund after six weeks and then fight the paypal dispute filed two months after the coin was paid for constitutes bad customer service. Unfortunately, Darin was one of their own so the Circle of Trust tried to run me off the boards and failed. Nothing more, nothing less. I am sure that Darin sent the coin, he is sure that I never received it.
However, we really need to agree to disagree and move passed this issue. Still, the self-proclaimed chosen few like to drag this out of mothballs every time they do not agree with something that I post. If you want to waste your time on this, feel free to reread all of the threads and form your own opinion. Personally, I am getting tired of it and do not think that it is good for Darin's or my own well being.
<< <i>Cherwood ... I agree. That was not the issue in this particular case. The ONLY issue was how long should a buyer have to wait for a refund when a coin does not show up and whether a refusal to provide a refund after six weeks and then fight the paypal dispute filed two months after the coin was paid for constitutes bad customer service. Unfortunately, Darin was one of their own so the Circle of Trust tried to run me off the boards and failed. Nothing more, nothing less. I am sure that Darin sent the coin, he is sure that I never received it.
However, we really need to agree to disagree and move passed this issue. Still, the self-proclaimed chosen few like to drag this out of mothballs every time they do not agree with something that I post. If you want to waste your time on this, feel free to reread all of the threads and form your own opinion. Personally, I am getting tired of it and do not think that it is good for Darin's or my own well being. >>
<< <i>Read the thread ... it is abundantly clear. >>
Even though it's very clear to one segment of our great society, it's not so clear to me. >>
OK ... but I really think that we need to move on. I negged him because after six weeks of receiving no coin, I requested a refund. He refused. After two more weeks, I filed a paypal dispute to recover my money. He fought it and lost. I negged him for what I considered HORRIBLE customer service. Approximately one month after that, he negged me because he tought that I was being unreasonable. None of those facts are in dispute.
In short, I negged him for what I considered bad customer service. Not for theft, not for failure to send the coin ... but simply because he refused to give me a refund after six weeks and then fought the paypal dispute. He negged me for demanding a refund and pressing the issue after two months.
His friends simply drag this thread out in an attempt to discredit me when they do not like something that I say ... it is always the same people ... although their numbers are now significantly decreased.
PS - I will not respond to this thread further until it is dragged out the next time that I say something with which the remaining "Circle" members disagree.
<< <i>Read the thread ... it is abundantly clear. >>
Even though it's very clear to one segment of our great society, it's not so clear to me. >>
OK ... but I really think that we need to move on. I negged him because after six weeks of receiving no coin, I requested a refund. He refused. After two more weeks, I filed a paypal dispute to recover my money. He fought it and lost. I negged him for what I considered HORRIBLE customer service. Approximately one month after that, he negged me because he tought that I was being unreasonable. None of those facts are in dispute.
In short, I negged him for what I considered bad customer service. Not for theft, not for failure to send the coin ... but simply because he refused to give me a refund after six weeks and then fought the paypal dispute. He negged me for demanding a refund and pressing the issue after two months.
His friends simply drag this thread out in an attempt to discredit me when they do not like something that I say ... it is always the same people ... although their numbers are now significantly decreased.
PS - I will not respond to this thread further until it is dragged out the next time that I say something with which the remaining "Circle" members disagree.
>>
Damn, did you ever consider that he was a good person and that he would make it right in the end? You gotta slow down sometimes.
<< <i>Read the thread ... it is abundantly clear. >>
Even though it's very clear to one segment of our great society, it's not so clear to me. >>
PS - I will not respond to this thread further until it is dragged out the next time that I say something with which the remaining "Circle" members disagree.
>>
Yes it's abundantly clear that you continue to ignore the real issue. You have repeatedly chosen to ignore the fact that you disrespected Darin by refusing his instructions to follow the protocol for a loss BY THE U.S.P.S. And you continue your double speak by characterizing this as "horrible customer service". You're the one that should be disrespected for failing to provide due diligence.
If you guys are getting as tired of these off-topic ramblings as I am, why not encourage the old "Circle" to quit poking me with a stick while I'm sleeping.
<< <i>...OK ... but I really think that we need to move on. I negged him because after six weeks of receiving no coin, I requested a refund. He refused. After two more weeks, I filed a paypal dispute to recover my money. He fought it and lost. I negged him for what I considered HORRIBLE customer service. Approximately one month after that, he negged me because he tought that I was being unreasonable. None of those facts are in dispute.
In short, I negged him for what I considered bad customer service. Not for theft, not for failure to send the coin ... but simply because he refused to give me a refund after six weeks and then fought the paypal dispute. He negged me for demanding a refund and pressing the issue after two months... >>
I recall seeing this thread when initially posted but admit that I have not read it in its entirety. If Fletcher’s synopsis (above) is accurate & complete, I would have to agree that a Negative to the seller was warranted. Just my 2¢ - Preussen
"Illegitimis non carborundum" -General Joseph Stilwell. See my auctions
PS - I will not respond to this thread further until it is dragged out the next time that I say something with which the remaining "Circle" members disagree.
This is fun. You lasted about less than 12 hours and came back for more. let it die. Jim
His friends simply drag this thread out in an attempt to discredit me when they do not like something that I say ... it is always the same people ... although their numbers are now significantly decreased.
Thank goodness you revived this ClassicCoin ... this a good thread to show newbies that they do not have to take crap from dealers who give horrible customer service. What happened to Darin anyway?
It is also interesting to note that the person who started this thread, Braddick, is selling AT crap on eBay right now ... you crap dealers sure know how to stick together!
<< <i>Thank goodness you revived this ClassicCoin ... this a good thread to show newbies that they do not have to take crap from dealers who give horrible customer service. What happened to Darin anyway?
It is also interesting to note that the person who started this thread, Braddick, is selling AT crap on eBay right now ... you crap dealers sure know how to stick together!
>>
Show me one coin I'm selling on eBay that is AT crap.
<< <i>I thought this was a PCGS board? Is this how eBay negatives get removed? No wonder people get scammed? >>
You are coming in WAY late and making ASSumptions about many things. You would have to know the players.....Darin is a great person to buy from. Fletcher is someone with money and doesn't appear pleasant to work with. Pat just wanted to have things zeroed out.
Always find it interesting when new people jump into old threads and toss in commentary just to be heard.....
<< <i>has anybody at all heard from darin? all ill say is its been over one year now on a lost registered parcel that i consigned and i havent received a insurance check or even heard from him! the sad part is i hope he is allright and i still think the best for him but yes i think i deserve an explanation. >>
Apparently, I wasn't the only one ... so just out of curiousity, is a year too long to wait for one's money or is this forum member being impatient as well??? It appears that Darin did the same thing to the both of us at the same time
<< <i>Russ pointed out an earlier thread today about Darin Whittaker, BigD5.
I'm sure many of you have done business with him, he used to sell here regularly. I had several great transactions with him, even met him in person. I asked him to consign some coins (orignally purchased from him) about 1 year ago.
Long story short, I have the paper trail, I have Darin's admittance (and many excuses about personal problems), and I'm out about $1,200.
I'm been extremely patient, and it's been difficult to track him down. As far as I'm concerend this is felony theft. He sold the coins then spent my money.
Scott G. >>
Two people getting screwed I can still chalk up to as a mistake. But now, at least three people getting screwed by Darin at the same time ... the guy is a thief! I do not expect to any of the remaining "Circle" members to play nicely with me after all of the banging that has been going on since I first complained about Darin and was subjected to the wrath of his champions. However, now that a few other people that have been screwed by Darin at the same time and in the same way have offered up their stories, maybe those angry that I outed him can see that the JackA$$ that started this whole thing was Darin ... and maybe we can cease hosilities a bit and get this gift of a coin forum back on track. I am willing to make the effort ... are you guys?
<< <i>Yes, Fletcher, you were right about Darin. You're still a nitwit, though.
Russ, NCNE >>
Lol ... close enough! I'll try to be less of a nitwit
And, in the vein of contrition ... yes Russ, you were right about that 1858-O Quarter. But, I still like it for the uber-low pop. And, having learned from that purchase, I have teamed up with a new dealer for my classic rarities purchases who has already shown the beauty of true crust
<< <i>Yes, Fletcher, you were right about Darin. You're still a nitwit, though.
Russ, NCNE >>
Yeah Russ BUT he is a CU Forum nitwit.....not unlike a few of us (no need to agree with me here Russ )
I have always given Fletcher the credit from day one for standing up for his own principles even if it meant going against the tide---which is never an easy thing to do---and he is still here buying some nice coins may I add
<< <i>Yes, Fletcher, you were right about Darin. You're still a nitwit, though.
Russ, NCNE >>
Would Fletcher still be a nitwit if the other two people would have came forward in the original thread ?
Russ be fair with the guy. This is certainly not the first time a person has got raked over the coals because he said a few negative things about a well known forum member. Fletcher is willing to play, are you ?
Hell, I caught hell for suggesting a member was not up and up. Hmmmm.... that guy is not around here anymore.
When one person has the nads to say something others that have got shafted need to grow some also !!!!
<< <i>Would Fletcher still be a nitwit if the other two people would have came forward in the original thread ? >>
Yes. He's not still a nitwit because of this. He's still a nitwit for his attacks on Mark Feld.
Russ, NCNE >>
Hold on there ... go back and reread everything I ever wrote about Mark Feld. He was a wealth of information and I was sorry to see him go ... but it was hard not to comment on the fact that some of his posts against other people were so harsh as to likely get him in legal trouble ... not just banned from the boards. AND, he did in fact get himself banned from this place ... it is a shame, but nobody did it for him.
Comments
<< <i>I miss Darin5's posts and his eBay auctions. He has not been doing either since fuddernutting piece of elmo Fletcher acted like a here kitty kitty! >>
a039:
Thank you for your insightful contribution.
Sincerely,
Fletcher
is english not your first language?
<< <i>"I miss Darin5's posts and his eBay auctions. He has not been doing either since fuddernutting piece of elmo Fletcher acted like a here kitty kitty!"
is english not your first language? >>
? It makes sense to me...
">"http://www.cashcrate.com/5663377"
<< <i>I miss Darin5's posts and his eBay auctions. He has not been doing either since fuddernutting piece of elmo Fletcher acted like a here kitty kitty!
The fletcher is one bidder for the block list
<< <i>"I miss Darin5's posts and his eBay auctions. He has not been doing either since fuddernutting piece of elmo Fletcher acted like a here kitty kitty!"
is english not your first language? >>
I don't know what's funnier, a039's post or classiccoin's response.
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<< <i>Why the sudden interest in fletcher?
Because he's a 'tool'
Read and learn.
<< <i>
<< <i>Why the sudden interest in fletcher?
Because he's a 'tool'. >>
ss350camaro:
Thank you for your insightful contribution.
Sincerely,
Fletcher
The damn thing showed up in my mail almost a year later, and postmarked on the day she said she mailed it. Who knows why it was lost in the postal service for so long, but she did in fact mail it when she said she did.
Cher-Wood Forest Aviary
POTD - May 26, 2005
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Why the sudden interest in fletcher?
Because he's a 'tool'. >>
ss350camaro:
Thank you for your insightful contribution.
Sincerely,
Fletcher >>
insightful is the key word. it's all there in print for anyone to read and have an opinion on.
However, we really need to agree to disagree and move passed this issue. Still, the self-proclaimed chosen few like to drag this out of mothballs every time they do not agree with something that I post. If you want to waste your time on this, feel free to reread all of the threads and form your own opinion. Personally, I am getting tired of it and do not think that it is good for Darin's or my own well being.
<< <i>Cherwood ... I agree. That was not the issue in this particular case. The ONLY issue was how long should a buyer have to wait for a refund when a coin does not show up and whether a refusal to provide a refund after six weeks and then fight the paypal dispute filed two months after the coin was paid for constitutes bad customer service. Unfortunately, Darin was one of their own so the Circle of Trust tried to run me off the boards and failed. Nothing more, nothing less. I am sure that Darin sent the coin, he is sure that I never received it.
However, we really need to agree to disagree and move passed this issue. Still, the self-proclaimed chosen few like to drag this out of mothballs every time they do not agree with something that I post. If you want to waste your time on this, feel free to reread all of the threads and form your own opinion. Personally, I am getting tired of it and do not think that it is good for Darin's or my own well being. >>
<< <i> I am sure that Darin sent the coin, he is sure that I never received it. >>
Then why did you NEG him?
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
<< <i>
<< <i> I am sure that Darin sent the coin, he is sure that I never received it. >>
Then why did you NEG him? >>
Read the thread ... it is abundantly clear.
<< <i>Read the thread ... it is abundantly clear. >>
Even though it's very clear to one segment of our great society, it's not so clear to me.
<< <i>I am sure that Darin sent the coin, he is sure that I never received it. >>
And you neg him?
Let this thread go back into the old files of the CU
The past is excatly that the past
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<< <i>
<< <i>Read the thread ... it is abundantly clear. >>
Even though it's very clear to one segment of our great society, it's not so clear to me. >>
OK ... but I really think that we need to move on. I negged him because after six weeks of receiving no coin, I requested a refund. He refused. After two more weeks, I filed a paypal dispute to recover my money. He fought it and lost. I negged him for what I considered HORRIBLE customer service. Approximately one month after that, he negged me because he tought that I was being unreasonable. None of those facts are in dispute.
In short, I negged him for what I considered bad customer service. Not for theft, not for failure to send the coin ... but simply because he refused to give me a refund after six weeks and then fought the paypal dispute. He negged me for demanding a refund and pressing the issue after two months.
His friends simply drag this thread out in an attempt to discredit me when they do not like something that I say ... it is always the same people ... although their numbers are now significantly decreased.
PS - I will not respond to this thread further until it is dragged out the next time that I say something with which the remaining "Circle" members disagree.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Read the thread ... it is abundantly clear. >>
Even though it's very clear to one segment of our great society, it's not so clear to me. >>
OK ... but I really think that we need to move on. I negged him because after six weeks of receiving no coin, I requested a refund. He refused. After two more weeks, I filed a paypal dispute to recover my money. He fought it and lost. I negged him for what I considered HORRIBLE customer service. Approximately one month after that, he negged me because he tought that I was being unreasonable. None of those facts are in dispute.
In short, I negged him for what I considered bad customer service. Not for theft, not for failure to send the coin ... but simply because he refused to give me a refund after six weeks and then fought the paypal dispute. He negged me for demanding a refund and pressing the issue after two months.
His friends simply drag this thread out in an attempt to discredit me when they do not like something that I say ... it is always the same people ... although their numbers are now significantly decreased.
PS - I will not respond to this thread further until it is dragged out the next time that I say something with which the remaining "Circle" members disagree.
Damn, did you ever consider that he was a good person and that he would make it right in the end? You gotta slow down sometimes.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Read the thread ... it is abundantly clear. >>
Even though it's very clear to one segment of our great society, it's not so clear to me. >>
PS - I will not respond to this thread further until it is dragged out the next time that I say something with which the remaining "Circle" members disagree.
Yes it's abundantly clear that you continue to ignore the real issue. You have repeatedly chosen to ignore the fact that you disrespected Darin by refusing his instructions to follow the protocol for a loss BY THE U.S.P.S. And you continue your double speak by characterizing this as "horrible customer service". You're the one that should be disrespected for failing to provide due diligence.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
Uh oh ... now I am beginning to sound like bear
<< <i>...OK ... but I really think that we need to move on. I negged him because after six weeks of receiving no coin, I requested a refund. He refused. After two more weeks, I filed a paypal dispute to recover my money. He fought it and lost. I negged him for what I considered HORRIBLE customer service. Approximately one month after that, he negged me because he tought that I was being unreasonable. None of those facts are in dispute.
In short, I negged him for what I considered bad customer service. Not for theft, not for failure to send the coin ... but simply because he refused to give me a refund after six weeks and then fought the paypal dispute. He negged me for demanding a refund and pressing the issue after two months... >>
I recall seeing this thread when initially posted but admit that I have not read it in its entirety. If Fletcher’s synopsis (above) is accurate & complete, I would have to agree that a Negative to the seller was warranted. Just my 2¢ - Preussen
This is fun. You lasted about less than 12 hours and came back for more. let it die.
Jim
YOU will never have many friends here.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>YOU will never have many friends here. >>
cohodk:
Thank you for your insightful contribution.
Sincerely,
Fletcher
<< <i>YOU will never have many friends here. >>
Not completely true. Lots of dealers want to be his "friend".
Russ, NCNE
It is also interesting to note that the person who started this thread, Braddick, is selling AT crap on eBay right now ... you crap dealers sure know how to stick together!
Buying top quality Seated Dimes in Gem BU and Proof.
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<< <i>Thank goodness you revived this ClassicCoin ... this a good thread to show newbies that they do not have to take crap from dealers who give horrible customer service. What happened to Darin anyway?
It is also interesting to note that the person who started this thread, Braddick, is selling AT crap on eBay right now ... you crap dealers sure know how to stick together!
Show me one coin I'm selling on eBay that is AT crap.
peacockcoins
Show me one coin I'm selling on eBay that is AT crap. >>
I apologize if I was mistaken ... I was under the impression that this coin was yours:
Linky
The discussion about it was here:
Linky 2
If they were incorrect, then I apologize. Please note that I only brought it up in reponse to another revival of this thread.
<< <i>I thought this was a PCGS board? Is this how eBay negatives get removed? No wonder people get scammed? >>
You are coming in WAY late and making ASSumptions about many things. You would have to know the players.....Darin is a great person to buy from. Fletcher is someone with money and doesn't appear pleasant to work with. Pat just wanted to have things zeroed out.
Always find it interesting when new people jump into old threads and toss in commentary just to be heard.....
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>has anybody at all heard from darin? all ill say is its been over one year now on a lost registered parcel that i consigned and i havent received a insurance check or even heard from him! the sad part is i hope he is allright and i still think the best for him but yes i think i deserve an explanation.
Apparently, I wasn't the only one ... so just out of curiousity, is a year too long to wait for one's money or is this forum member being impatient as well??? It appears that Darin did the same thing to the both of us at the same time
<< <i>Apparently, I wasn't the only one ... >>
Sadly, you weren't.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>
<< <i>Apparently, I wasn't the only one ... >>
Sadly, you weren't.
Russ, NCNE >>
Another forum member posted today:
<< <i>Russ pointed out an earlier thread today about Darin Whittaker, BigD5.
I'm sure many of you have done business with him, he used to sell here regularly.
I had several great transactions with him, even met him in person. I asked him to
consign some coins (orignally purchased from him) about 1 year ago.
Long story short, I have the paper trail, I have Darin's admittance (and many
excuses about personal problems), and I'm out about $1,200.
I'm been extremely patient, and it's been difficult to track him down. As far as I'm
concerend this is felony theft. He sold the coins then spent my money.
Scott G. >>
Two people getting screwed I can still chalk up to as a mistake. But now, at least three people getting screwed by Darin at the same time ... the guy is a thief! I do not expect to any of the remaining "Circle" members to play nicely with me after all of the banging that has been going on since I first complained about Darin and was subjected to the wrath of his champions. However, now that a few other people that have been screwed by Darin at the same time and in the same way have offered up their stories, maybe those angry that I outed him can see that the JackA$$ that started this whole thing was Darin ... and maybe we can cease hosilities a bit and get this gift of a coin forum back on track. I am willing to make the effort ... are you guys?
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Yes, Fletcher, you were right about Darin. You're still a nitwit, though.
Russ, NCNE >>
Lol ... close enough! I'll try to be less of a nitwit
And, in the vein of contrition ... yes Russ, you were right about that 1858-O Quarter. But, I still like it for the uber-low pop. And, having learned from that purchase, I have teamed up with a new dealer for my classic rarities purchases who has already shown the beauty of true crust
<< <i>Yes, Fletcher, you were right about Darin. You're still a nitwit, though.
Russ, NCNE >>
Yeah Russ BUT he is a CU Forum nitwit.....not unlike a few of us (no need to agree with me here Russ
I have always given Fletcher the credit from day one for standing up for his own principles even if it meant going against the tide---which is never an easy thing to do---and he is still here buying some nice coins may I add
<< <i>Yes, Fletcher, you were right about Darin. You're still a nitwit, though.
Russ, NCNE >>
Would Fletcher still be a nitwit if the other two people would have came forward in the original thread ?
Russ be fair with the guy. This is certainly not the first time a person has got raked over the coals because he said a few negative things about a well known forum member. Fletcher is willing to play, are you ?
Hell, I caught hell for suggesting a member was not up and up. Hmmmm.... that guy is not around here anymore.
When one person has the nads to say something others that have got shafted need to grow some also !!!!
Ken
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
<< <i>Would Fletcher still be a nitwit if the other two people would have came forward in the original thread ? >>
Yes. He's not still a nitwit because of this. He's still a nitwit for his attacks on Mark Feld.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>
<< <i>Would Fletcher still be a nitwit if the other two people would have came forward in the original thread ? >>
Yes. He's not still a nitwit because of this. He's still a nitwit for his attacks on Mark Feld.
Russ, NCNE >>
Are you sure Fletcher is still a nitwit because of your two examples ? I'm not.
Ken
<< <i>
<< <i>Would Fletcher still be a nitwit if the other two people would have came forward in the original thread ? >>
Yes. He's not still a nitwit because of this. He's still a nitwit for his attacks on Mark Feld.
Russ, NCNE >>
Hold on there ... go back and reread everything I ever wrote about Mark Feld. He was a wealth of information and I was sorry to see him go ... but it was hard not to comment on the fact that some of his posts against other people were so harsh as to likely get him in legal trouble ... not just banned from the boards. AND, he did in fact get himself banned from this place ... it is a shame, but nobody did it for him.