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What is the hardest coin to grade..?

I dont' claim to be good at any but I am better at some and have no clue as to some. Thanks. jws
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    CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139 ✭
    Peace dollars.

    edited to add>> Yes, I agree that incuse Indians are murder to grade too. No point in adding a reply to the thread.
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    StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my opinion, the incuse design 20th Century $5 & $2.50 Indian Gold Pieces designed by Bela Lyon Pratt

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    << <i>In my opinion, the incuse design 20th Century $5 & $2.50 Indian Gold Pieces designed by Bela Lyon Pratt >>



    Those are tough.
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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In my opinion, the incuse design 20th Century $5 & $2.50 Indian Gold Pieces designed by Bela Lyon Pratt >>

    That's what I was going to say. All the other coins are similar in that they rub in certain places and mark up in certain places. Sometimes you have to know intricacies (weak strikes, spots to look out for, etc.) but usually, all those coins get graded the same way. The incuse, designs, however, have different lustre, wear, contact marks, etc., and really can be confusing when you first start.
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    Peace dollars and Franklin halves
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    What is the hardest coin to grade..?

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    The hardest coin to grade is your OWN!!!!image
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    coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    Indian gold would be the best answer for the same reason that others have stated. All other coins have similar relief and are very easy to grade once the rules are learned - the indian gold follows a completely separate set of rules.
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    the one you cant see.
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    ldhairldhair Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For me it's any coin with dark toning.
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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For most collectors it is the series they have the least interest in. For me it is walking liberty half dollars-i cant tell a vg from a vf.-- 3 cent silvers seem tough to grade also. Gold coins are a study in themselves as different mints and different dates could be graded differently.
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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There was a certain 3 cent silver a few months ago that was a real poser...I think the grade range went from VG10 to AU50...L
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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Branch mint gold.
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    This question was asked a couple months ago and you can read everyones responces here which series is toughest to grade
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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    $2.50 and $5.00 Gold Indians.
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    JulioJulio Posts: 2,501 ✭
    There are many excellent answers and also humor. While I can only speak for myself; the replies have opened my eyes to areas I have not given much thought.

    So much to learn, so little time. Trust me, I need all the help I can get. Thanks for imparting your knowledge. It is appreciated.

    I sincerely believe the replies have many thinking.

    I get in trouble when I think. I do believe for the rest of you thinking is a good thing. You are able to think clearly and respond with knowledge. I'm learning. Thanks for the lesson. It is greatly appreciated. jws.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Southern branch mint gold due to poor strikes
    Type II gold dollars due to poor strikes

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    JulioJulio Posts: 2,501 ✭
    This question was asked a couple months ago and you can read everyones responces here which series is toughest to grade

    Sorry Bryan1315 I was not aware of the previous thread. My sincere apologies for being repetive. jws
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    HootHoot Posts: 867 ✭


    << <i>Sorry Bryan1315 I was not aware of the previous thread. My sincere apologies for being repetive. jws >>



    No reason to apologize. Many threads have appeared anew with new members over time. It only goes to show that people have similar thoughts. It's also nice to have links to past threads to see how the answers may remain the same or change over time. So please, keep asking your questions, and don't be shy.

    Silver dollars, particularly Morgans and Peace dollars can give me the greatest trouble - more so than incuse gold. Don't know why, but it may be interest (even though I collect Unc. Peace dollars in an album).

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    JulioJulio Posts: 2,501 ✭
    Many threads have appeared anew with new members over time. It only goes to show that people have similar thoughts. It's also nice to have links to past threads to see how the answers may remain the same or change over time. So please, keep asking your questions, and don't be shy.

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    TavernTreasuresTavernTreasures Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭
    Nickel Beer! (those buffs are hard in more ways than one!)
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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    hardest to grade are connecticut coppers, hands down. just about everything else , especially federal issues, are e-z by comparison.

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    The incused gold and the older copper. Also what CoinMaster said. Bob
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1837 LM-3/V5 capped bust half dime. Strike issues make this a real challenge.
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    Peace dollars are tough. I cant tell AU from MS65 sometimes.
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    LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349 ✭


    << <i>There was a certain 3 cent silver a few months ago that was a real poser...I think the grade range went from VG10 to AU50...L >>



    I think I know which one you mean. image

    As for me, Buffalo Nickels, Three cent silvers, incuse Indian Gold and other issues with strike or die wear problems.

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    HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,520 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>There was a certain 3 cent silver a few months ago that was a real poser...I think the grade range went from VG10 to AU50...L >>



    I think I know which one you mean. image

    As for me, Buffalo Nickels, Three cent silvers, incuse Indian Gold and other issues with strike or die wear problems.

    -Amanda >>



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    for some reason the soft edges of the buff nick and the incuse indians throw me, probably because of the unconventional designs.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think the incuse Indians are as tough as people make them out to be -- and I'm not a "gold guy." They are different, but not tough with just a little effort.
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    I used to think it was the Indian head quarter and half eagles.

    However, after spending some time looking at branch mint gold, I have changed my mind. The 1840s-1860s branch mint liberty head quarter eagles are very tough to grade. Nearly each date and mint mark have different grading standards. Some dates are so mushy I can't believe any coin is graded MS. But that just goes to show I don't know how to properly grade them.
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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    seems odd to me that so many closed-collar series are being suggested as hardest to grade. open-collar strikes are MUCH more prone to erratic striking, leading to much variance in grading. plus, planchets used in early series are far more often of inconsistent quality compared to modern planchets. . . . . . .

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