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Compare the artwork - "No Drapery" type vs. "With Drapery" type - Quarters
BillJones
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Although the liberty seated design appeared on our coinage from more than 50 years, Ms. Liberty did go though some changes over that time. The most obvious of these were the differences between the "No Drapery" and "With Drapery." The drapery refers to an extra fold of cloth that appears on Ms. Liberty’s left arm. Christian Gobrecht’s original design did not include that, and there were some other subtle differences.
Here are the two designs side by side. Which one do think is the more attractive, excluding, of course the grades of the coins which are AU-58 and MS-64 respectively.
Here are the two designs side by side. Which one do think is the more attractive, excluding, of course the grades of the coins which are AU-58 and MS-64 respectively.
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I would also observe, as has been noted here in the past, that Lady Liberty had hammy arms.
And to CCU's point, even after spending time in the gym, I could never have pipes like that.
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
Artistically, I think the 'with drapery' type is more fluid and pleasing to the eye.
<< <i>I like the with drapery.
And to CCU's point, even after spending time in the gym, I could never have pipes like that. >>
You have to remember. In the 19th century chubby women were thought to be far more attractive than they are today. One aspect of that may have been that they were viewed as more healthy and able to bear children. It was not unusual for a woman to have 5 to 10 or more children in those days. Of course infant mortality rates were quite high, and many of those child did not live to adulthood.
For example Abraham and Mary Lincoln had four children. Two of them died in childhood while one (Tad) lived to be 19. Only the eldest, Robert, survived to live a full adult life.
For a nation that has so many overweight people I think we should learn to love the way Liberty looks. These twig like models we see on TV are just not healthy and look very weak and fragile to me. I'm sure they could never help with the plowing.
Bill, great point with the beauty standards of the day, but the with drapery looks like she's not chubby, but pumping 'roids! Her arms look more disproportionate in the w/drapery design.
All that said, I love the seated lib design. It's a design that covers a lot of ground in U.S history.
The face on liberty with drapery looks really goofy.
The no drapery looks much more pleasing.
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<< <i>I like the with drapery.
And to CCU's point, even after spending time in the gym, I could never have pipes like that. >>
You have to remember. In the 19th century chubby women were thought to be far more attractive than they are today. One aspect of that may have been that they were viewed as more healthy and able to bear children. It was not unusual for a woman to have 5 to 10 or more children in those days. Of course infant mortality rates were quite high, and many of those child did not live to adulthood.
For example Abraham and Mary Lincoln had four children. Two of them died in childhood while one (Tad) lived to be 19. Only the eldest, Robert, survived to live a full adult life. >>
Interesting points, as usual.
<< <i>I'm a fan of the No Drapery design. Take the stars away as well and I'm really happy. >>
Sorry. The mint never made a No Stars quarter.
But I will agree with you that the No Stars design was cleaner and more attractive. It was kind of like a little cameo.
<< <i>Sorry. The mint never made a No Stars quarter. >>
And I've always thought that was one of their bigger mistakes. The no stars design on the larger coins would have been magnificent.