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So, a guy just comes in to my shop to sell some coins.

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
Two big bags of bulk silver quarters and dimes. Nearly 30 lbs worth. Everything about this guy from the junky van to the sleazy chick in the front seat screamed stolen coins. So, I ask him a few questions about the origin and got the usual "grandfather died" crap. I tell him that if we're going to do a deal he'll need to provide his driver's license, fill out a form, and he'll be paid by check. Said he needed cash and asked if I knew any place that paid cash. I said no, and he headed out the door. Reported him to the cops.

Russ, NCNE
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  • Hope you got the license number of the van....



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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,327 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bet that chick was hot...
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hope you got the license number of the van... >>



    Yep. Gave it to the cops.



    << <i>I bet that chick was hot... >>



    Nah, she was a pig.

    Russ, NCNE

  • Good goin Russ

    lets hope he is a thief and that his grandaddy has been dead for 30 years.

  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    <Everything about this guy from the junky van to the sleazy chick in the front seat screamed stolen coins. >


    So, if I showed up at your store in my junk 68 with my sleezy "dog" in tow I am an immediate thief ???
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    Actually, I think you called it correctly. Should be more of a history behind 30lbs. of silver then just "Grand pap kicked the can". image
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    Nah, she was a pig.

    Russ, NCNE >>


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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice work Russ, the guy sounded very suspicious.
  • 21Walker21Walker Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭
    Russ, That is a great move on your part and one everyone should emulate..........Rick
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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,277 ✭✭✭
    I hope it wasn't TWODOGS.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,789 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Nah, she was a pig.

    Russ, NCNE >>


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    Are you saying that was YOU at Russ'?
    Maybe when he said he called the cops, he was just callin' hubby to come get you?

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So, if I showed up at your store in my junk 68 with my sleezy "dog" in tow I am an immediate thief ??? >>



    A dog would be okay. image The real tipoff was that he didn't want to provide his driver's license and demanded cash even after I explained to him that he could cash the check at my bank two blocks away.

    Russ, NCNE
  • Russ,

    You have a shop now? Give me the address, I'll stop in next time I am in Seattle. Don't worry, I WILL cherry pick you ;0
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Russ,

    You have a shop now? >>



    I've had a shop for almost 17 years. Computers, though. image I have a big sign in the shop that says "Buying US Coins and Collections" so I get just an occasional seller.

    Russ, NCNE
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good call Russ.
    Many happy BST transactions
  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hope you had smoething ready just in case he DEMANDED cash.

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  • << <i>I hope it wasn't TWODOGS. >>


    Poor DOUBLEMUTT. image

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  • Good Call man. I hope he gets whats coming to him.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hope you had smoething ready just in case he DEMANDED cash. >>



    Guns are dangerous, and only cops and military should be allowed to own them.

    Russ, NCNE


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    << <i>Hope you had smoething ready just in case he DEMANDED cash. >>



    Guns are dangerous, and only cops and military should be allowed to own them.

    Russ, NCNE >>


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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Hope you had smoething ready just in case he DEMANDED cash. >>



    Guns are dangerous, and only cops and military should be allowed to own them.

    Russ, NCNE >>




    I've been both. image


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    << <i>Hope you had smoething ready just in case he DEMANDED cash. >>



    Guns are dangerous, and only cops and military should be allowed to own them.

    Russ, NCNE >>




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  • So there I was today, driving through the Northwest with my wife when I stopped by this store that had a sign in the window to buy coins. As it so happens, grandad SM recently died as a result of a skateboarding accident and I had grandad's bag of junk silver. I needed some money but because I didn't have my drivers license with me, he wouldn't buy them for cash. Maybe it's a good thing, the guy looked like one of those creepy people that hoards kennedy halves.

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  • 2 for 2...nice!
  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So there I was today, driving through the Northwest with my wife when I stopped by this store that had a sign in the window to buy coins. As it so happens, grandad SM recently died as a result of a skateboarding accident and I had grandad's bag of junk silver. I needed some money but because I didn't have my drivers license with me, he wouldn't buy them for cash. Maybe it's a good thing, the guy looked like one of those creepy people that hoards kennedy halves. >>





    tee hee.....

    Ahhhhh, reminds me of the old days in the OF


    oh yeah, here's a coin

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Otis,

    That's a pretty good story. Maybe you should post a reverse spoof thread. image

    Russ, NCNE


  • << <i>So there I was today, driving through the Northwest with my wife when I stopped by this store that had a sign in the window to buy coins. As it so happens, grandad SM recently died as a result of a skateboarding accident and I had grandad's bag of junk silver. I needed some money but because I didn't have my drivers license with me, he wouldn't buy them for cash. Maybe it's a good thing, the guy looked like one of those creepy people that hoards kennedy halves. >>


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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So there I was today, driving through the Northwest with my wife when I stopped by this store that had a sign in the window to buy coins. As it so happens, grandad SM recently died as a result of a skateboarding accident and I had grandad's bag of junk silver. I needed some money but because I didn't have my drivers license with me, he wouldn't buy them for cash. Maybe it's a good thing, the guy looked like one of those creepy people that hoards kennedy halves. >>




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  • I don't know whether to make a comment about Russ's store (which I'd love to visit) or the whole West Virginia State Police thing.

    So I just won't say anything more.

    What do you think, Mr. Bigglesworth?
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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't know whether to make a comment about Russ's store (which I'd love to visit) or the whole West Virginia State Police thing.

    So I just won't say anything more. >>




    Awww, come on.
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    SM1 is battin' 1.000 today! image
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭


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    Nah, she was a pig.

    Russ, NCNE >>


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  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Russ,

    You have a shop now? >>



    I've had a shop for almost 17 years. Computers, though. image I have a big sign in the shop that says "Buying US Coins and Collections" so I get just an occasional seller.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    I was going to say...I didn't think you were a full time dealer.
  • DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭
    They say hindsight is 20-20. But I know how Russ must've felt. Law enforcement folks call it "hinky". As in: "That guy makes me feel hinky" One gets the overwhelming sense that there's not something quite right Which I assume is why Russ asked for the license ID.

    What if Russ bought the sacks and still reported the incident to police? Russ is in possession of the potentially stolen goods and the thieves no longer have someone elses property. They go on their happy way thinking they've made it in the clear. Meanwhile the Police are investigating. This scenario has two outcomes: Russ gets to keep his coins because the suspects are clean. Or, the cops nab the suspects and the coins are returned to their rightful owners and Russ's coin insurance covers his loss. Or else if the cops nab the bad guys before they have a chance to flee, Russ gets his money back anyway.

    At least the authorities have been alerted.

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    << <i>Hope you got the license number of the van... >>



    Yep. Gave it to the cops.



    << <i>I bet that chick was hot... >>



    Nah, she was a pig.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Shirley that didn't make any difference!!
  • Funny - sounds like the same guy who I bought a collection from my table at a show recently. The gal was really hot, looked like a stripper. She smiled at me the whole time - almost like she knew what I was thinking. Didn't think he would go for the deal (as I was looking to get it cheap and flip a lot of it for $$$ right away - went thru my act like I was really figuring hard with the calculator and then saying "now lets see how I can fudge this up") plus he talked like a knucklehead but when I doled out the cash they quickly took it and were on their way. Some of the coins are nice enough to slab and they will on the way to Teletrade (raw coin svc). The rest, well have you seen some nice circ silver dollar lots and collector coins on ebay starting at 99 cents? My pay pal account is like a swollen river after a flood - well gotta go buy some coins......
  • Good for you! Not buying coins you believe to be stolen is a great way to slow coin-crime!
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Guns are dangerous, and only cops and military should be allowed to own them.

    Guns aren't dangerous, humans are, the most destructive force on the planet. Way to go Russ.
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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,620 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They say hindsight is 20-20. But I know how Russ must've felt. Law enforcement folks call it "hinky". As in: "That guy makes me feel hinky" One gets the overwhelming sense that there's not something quite right Which I assume is why Russ asked for the license ID.

    What if Russ bought the sacks and still reported the incident to police? Russ is in possession of the potentially stolen goods and the thieves no longer have someone elses property. They go on their happy way thinking they've made it in the clear. Meanwhile the Police are investigating. This scenario has two outcomes: Russ gets to keep his coins because the suspects are clean. Or, the cops nab the suspects and the coins are returned to their rightful owners and Russ's coin insurance covers his loss. Or else if the cops nab the bad guys before they have a chance to flee, Russ gets his money back anyway.

    At least the authorities have been alerted.

    image Russ. >>



    Another possibility: the coins are held by the polie as evidence until a trial is held. The defense attorney decides to press for delays to improve the chance that the couple will be found not guilty. Meanwhile, Russ has neither his money nor the coins. Russ's insurance won't pay because the legal case isn't resolved yet. So Russ has to sit and wait, sit and wait. Good move, Russ, not letting this scenario happen.

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  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    Well done Russ image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The rest, well have you seen some nice circ silver dollar lots and collector coins on ebay starting at 99 cents? >>



    Give us your eBay handle, Derek, so we can go take a look.

    Russ, NCNE


  • << <i>.... plus he talked like a knucklehead ..... >>



    So you guys really had a meeting of the minds, huh?
    What do you think, Mr. Bigglesworth?
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  • the guy does something responsible and all he gets is schit. dealers such as you are few and far between. i had a similar experience when i sold 3000 40% silver halves to a dealer in ohio, by the way he was interrogating me i know the guy was certain i had stolen them. but i had nothing to hide so i gave him my info and then i asked if he needed my fingerprints, he said no and i said good cuz i dont trust coin dealers. we both had a good laugh LOL to who ever started the "i bet the chick was hot" thank you sincerely for the chuckle. now to the person that believes only cops and military personell should be "allowed" to carry guns, i say this:
    you can cut someone's throat with a plastic butterknife but should plastic utensils be outlawed ? guns dont kill people, irresponsible people with guns can kill people. we live in a world where not everyone obeys the law. laws dont stop crime you can choose for yourself if you want to own a gun but dont speak for me if i wake up in the middle of the night to a prowler in my house, my mossberg five shot pump is always close at hand, (under a pile of plastic butter knives of course)


  • << <i>So there I was today, driving through the Northwest with my wife when I stopped by this store that had a sign in the window to buy coins. As it so happens, grandad SM recently died as a result of a skateboarding accident and I had grandad's bag of junk silver. I needed some money but because I didn't have my drivers license with me, he wouldn't buy them for cash. Maybe it's a good thing, the guy looked like one of those creepy people that hoards kennedy halves. >>



    OH MAN THAT ROCKED.

    you made me spill beer, shame on you image
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  • JimDepotJimDepot Posts: 960 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Hope you had smoething ready just in case he DEMANDED cash. >>



    Guns are dangerous, and only cops and military should be allowed to own them.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    First thing you said that I don't agree with.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Hehe, I was kidding. I've had a concealed carry permit since I was 21 years old. image

    Russ, NCNE
  • Wow, you knew the coins were stolen just by looking at his car, his woman and his appearance. They could use your profiling skills at the airports. Maybe you could be an instructor?
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, you knew the coins were stolen just by looking at his car, his woman and his appearance. >>



    Didn't know for certain, but I had a gut feeling. Same kind of gut feeling I get when somebody tries to run a credit card scam on me. It just didn't feel right. Now, if he'd been willing to pony up his ID and accept a check, I'd have decided my gut feeling was wrong. He didn't, so I stayed with my gut.

    Russ, NCNE
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Russ' approach is par for the course with dealers I know. Smoeone walking in with coins that "don't seem to belong with them" plus a reluctance to accept anything but cash, or show ID, is a suspect combination.
  • he should have told the "broad" to fill out the papers, maybe he couldnt read. some people may as well wear a shirt that says "im trouble that you dont want"

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