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The "hypocritical dichotomy" of our membership!!

keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
Am I the only one confused when someone calls into question the practices of a big-time dealer and subsequently is taken to task by a member who regularly interferes with auctions at eBay in the name of fraud protection?? That seems a bit disingenuous in a sucking-up sort of way to me. Strangely, the nature of this forum tends to foster that type of behavior. From my lofty perch both acts would seem either bad or good, one can't be seperated from the other just due to the nature of who the member is or who the dealer is. That's hypocricy at it's worst.

BTW, some members who frequent eBay with regularity as sellers and buyers know what auction interference is. I wonder why they think it's OK to perpetuate that kind of stuff when their whiney nature demonstrates that thewy'd scream the loudest if someone did likewise to their auctions, but that life at the forum. So go ahead guys, when these auction interference threads pop up slather on the praise.

If you need to know who I'm talking about, just PM. I think a smart cookie shouldn't need to do that. And SM1, why don't you delete those threads?? If we're going to be deleting stuff which only protects certain people for obvious reasons, well, that really lowers the value of what this forum can be.

Man, do I feel better now.

Al H.

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  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    The hypocritical dichotomy of our membership reflects the bifurcated nature of the coin market. image
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    probably not.................
  • There is always that loud sucking sound on some of those Auction Interference, oops, ebay threads.imageimage
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    ken, I thought you recently had a dichotomy.


  • << <i>ken, I thought you recently had a dichotomy. >>



    John, there are Jaywalkers on your beat as we talk!!image

    I had rotator cuff surgery, whatever the slick name is for it!!
  • As I explained in the thread that got deleted...

    The are four types of people here:
      ScammersSuckersAttention WhoresCollectors
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i think that's called rotator cuff surgery, but where's RYK when you need him for the medical terms??


  • << <i>As I explained in the thread that got deleted...

    The are four types of people here:

    1) Scammers
    2) Suckers
    3) Attention Whores
    4) Collectors >>



    A lot here fit all four categories.Dimage

  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    From my lofty perch

    That's your problem- you're not down here with the people- power to the people!! image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Keets, I'll take the bait in the event that you're speaking of me - and my guess is that you are, since most others here who bid in such auctions don't use their non-secret Ebay user-name as I do. If you are referring to me, I challenge you to show me just ONE instance where I "interfered" with an Ebay listing that was other than an obviously counterfeit coin or one being offered by a scammer who didn't/couldn't have had it to deliver.

    In every auction in which I bid, I was prepared to follow through with a payment in the event that the seller actually had the (genuine) coin to deliver, and I am unaware of an instance in which I was mistaken about the seller being a scammer.

    Your comparing my accusations/actions (or those of another) against scammers, to those of a forum member whom, in what looks to be an effort to stir the pot, "calls into question the practices of a big-time dealer" without any factual basis, is misplaced.

    Additionally, if I or others had items up for sale on Ebay which were counterfeit or which we didn't have to deliver, I/we wouldn't "scream the loudest if someone did likewise to their auctions".

    You're a smart guy, but, in my opinion, at least, one who prefers to take cheap shots, as opposed to making your points in an intellectually honest fashion.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Am I the only one confused when someone calls into question the practices of a big-time dealer and subsequently is taken to task by a member who regularly interferes with auctions at eBay in the name of fraud protection?? >>



    So, your comparing going after eBay con artists with an unwarranted and false allegation leveled against a legitimate dealer? I'd always assumed you were smart enough to see the difference. My mistake.

    Russ, NCNE
  • Throw a little bait and they will come!!image
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    comparing going after eBay con artists with an unwarranted and false allegation leveled against a legitimate dealer

    actually, i'd have to be taking your word about the latter and the former doesn't really matter. with the eBay antics that regularly take place, no matter how righteous the stand is that's taken and how much i might agree that an auction isn't proper, the ends don't necessarily justify the means. as to the big shot dealer situation, i'm not privvy to the thread since it's gone while you had the chance to read it, and similarly, i am privvy to some of the PM's that were sent while you aren't, so i guess we should call that a wash.
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Keets, I'll take the bait in the event that you're speaking of me - and my guess is that you are, since most others here who bid in such auctions don't use their non-secret Ebay user-name as I do. If you are referring to me, I challenge you to show me just ONE instance where I "interfered" with an Ebay listing that was other than an obviously counterfeit coin or one being offered by a scammer who didn't/couldn't have had it to deliver.

    In every auction in which I bid, I was prepared to follow through with a payment in the event that the seller actually had the (genuine) coin to deliver, and I am unaware of an instance in which I was mistaken about the seller being a scammer.

    Your comparing my accusations/actions (or those of another) against scammers, to those of a forum member whom, in what looks to be an effort to stir the pot, "calls into question the practices of a big-time dealer" without any factual basis, is misplaced.

    Additionally, if I or others had items up for sale on Ebay which were counterfeit or which we didn't have to deliver, I/we wouldn't "scream the loudest if someone did likewise to their auctions".

    You're a smart guy, but, in my opinion, at least, one who prefers to take cheap shots, as opposed to making your points in an intellectually honest fashion. >>



    I like intellectual honesty. Mental masturbation is another thing entirely image

    The OP's assertion that smoe members engage in auction interference - and that it is hypocritical - made me laugh. What originally attracted me to the boards, and the only reason I became a member, was the effort that some members made in outing an Ebay fraud. I believe that the severity of smoe of the "problems" that have been exposed were overstated - but for the most part the actions of the members of this board have been positive. I've not seen auction interference by Mark, or any of the other coin posse, even if it seemed warranted. Sending Ebay messages to sellers asking them questions isn't auction intereference.

    What other members have taken upon themselves to do, I cannot speak on. If they want to expose themselves to Ebay bamming or even lawsuits through auction interference, so be it. No one here ever told them to do it, or if they did- those members have the power to say no.

    If a big-time dealer steps in it - then the big time dealer needs to be held to account. Whether they care or not about what goes on here is another thing entirely.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From my lofty perch
    That's your problem- you're not down here with the people- power to the people!!


    my thread and my perch, i get to look down into your hole if i want to. go find a tree and climb up to my level, then we might have something to talk about.
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭
    This has nothing to do with coins.

    Get over yourself.


  • << <i>This has nothing to do with coins.

    Get over yourself. >>



    This is about two coin threads that were deleted and therefore is about coins.

    Or, did you become the third forum cop in this thread??image
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Exactly who has had a lobotomy?
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This has nothing to do with coins.
    Get over yourself.


    you must have forgotten that i'm in a tree at the topmost branch, i can't get over myself, nor can you. BTW, it is about coins at two different internet sites and tactics used by seperate members to impugn the sellers.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    Better a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

    Keets -- Your opening post is too vague for me to understand. If you have something to say, please say it plainly.
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>This has nothing to do with coins.

    Get over yourself. >>



    This is about two coin threads that were deleted and therefore is about coins.

    Or, did you become the third forum cop in this thread??image >>



    Keets
    Coinguy1
    TWQG
    Russ


    Is my count off? image
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no, i will not be less vague. i have learned that the only way to get actual opinions here which have any content is to keep names out of things, i will name no names. if you have been here for awhile, you should be able to ascertain who some of the players are, they perform their rituals with Kaopectatic regularity. image


  • << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>This has nothing to do with coins.

    Get over yourself. >>



    This is about two coin threads that were deleted and therefore is about coins.

    Or, did you become the third forum cop in this thread??image >>



    Keets
    Coinguy1
    TWQG
    Russ


    Is my count off? image >>



    Sure is!!
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>This has nothing to do with coins.

    Get over yourself. >>



    This is about two coin threads that were deleted and therefore is about coins.

    Or, did you become the third forum cop in this thread??image >>



    Keets
    Coinguy1
    TWQG
    Russ


    Is my count off? image >>



    Sure is!! >>



    Sorry... Amended list:

    Keets
    Coinguy1
    TWQG
    Russ
    ksteelheader


  • << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>This has nothing to do with coins.

    Get over yourself. >>



    This is about two coin threads that were deleted and therefore is about coins.

    Or, did you become the third forum cop in this thread??image >>



    Keets
    Coinguy1
    TWQG
    Russ


    Is my count off? image >>



    Sure is!! >>



    Sorry... Amended list:

    Keets
    Coinguy1
    TWQG
    Russ
    ksteelheader >>



    Here I'll fix it for you.


    Coinguy1
    TWQG
    Russ
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    please be advised that the above list is Ben's and not mine which is different in a similar sort of way.
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>please be advised that the above list is Ben's and not mine which is different in a similar sort of way. >>



    image


  • << <i>

    << <i>please be advised that the above list is Ben's and not mine which is different in a similar sort of way. >>



    image >>



    image

    Where did the cops go?? Probably to the donut shop to fill their tanks.image
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭
    KAOPECTATIC???

    image That's an interesting new adjective.
    image
  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭
    KAOPECTATIC???

    That's an interesting new adjective.


    Might be a verb! image

    Joe.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭


    << <i>please be advised that the above list is Ben's and not mine which is different in a similar sort of way. >>



    I prefer things similar, in a different sort of way.image
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage


  • << <i>KAOPECTATIC???

    image That's an interesting new adjective. >>



    Maybe it would help you with your lunchtime ills that you had a problem with in the past.image
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    my thread and my perch, i get to look down into your hole if i want to. go find a tree and climb up to my level, then we might have something to talk about.

    It was a joke, numbnuts.... image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
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