Coin World Coin Holders - Does anyone use them and what do you think?

dorancoins · August 26, 2006 10:35PM

I received a package yesterday from Coin World (or Amos Press) and in it was a PCGS-looking slab (Premier) with a 2006-D Jefferson Nickel in it and also some sales brochures about the slab and some prices. I have to say that the slab is nice and so is the coin. Has anyone else on the forum received such package? Has anyone actually use these slabs? What is there to like or dislike about them? What else can anyone say about them?

majorbigtime · August 26, 2006 11:25PM

The "do-it-yourself" TPGs love 'em!

WhiteTornado · August 27, 2006 12:12AM

I'm also curious to hear others' experiences with these.

Shamika · August 27, 2006 12:16AM

These things are taylor made for scamming.

dorancoins · August 27, 2006 12:58AM

<< These things are taylor made for scamming.

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I heard about that. But for the few morons that try to deceive people, there must be a lot of collectors who actually like these holders. Though I am not a big fan of TPG and slabs, at least they make a coin a little more presentable.

jmj3esq · August 27, 2006 1:07AM

I tied to use them. It is extremely dificult to get the coins into the insert. I would not even attempt to put a proof coin in one.

dorancoins · August 27, 2006 1:07AM

Currently I use Saflips for all my coins, but these do-it-yourself slabs might be useable for some of my U.S coins (and I would not be a putz and put a cheap coin in one of these). I think these slabs could help sell such coins - of course, most collectors will know off the bat that it is not from a TPG since Doran Coins would be on the reverse side. In fact, if the makers of these holders would have different millimeter sizes, then I can use them on my better foreign coins. In any case, I would use the black inserts (the white ones look too much like a NGC or an old ANACS holder).

dorancoins · August 27, 2006 1:09AM

<< I tied to use them. It is extremely dificult to get the coins into the insert. I would not even attempt to put a proof coin in one. >>

Really? Amos Advantage had a 30 second video on how to get the coin into the insert. Looks easy - but.....

dorancoins · August 27, 2006 1:10AM

One thing I noticed in the video is that the insert was flexible - I hope to God they aren't using PVC.

WhiteTornado · August 27, 2006 1:12AM

I also posted this topic over on the Darkside

It sounds like those black inserts could prove tricky when inserting the coins. I wonder what other type of holders are out there which are more durable like these, and also provide a place for a label. What I don't like about holders such as airtites is that there is no place for a label without covering up part of the coin.

dorancoins · August 27, 2006 1:14AM

<< I also posted this topic over on the Darkside

It sounds like those black inserts could prove tricky when inserting the coins. I wonder what other type of holders are out there which are more durable like these, and also provide a place for a label. What I don't like about holders such as airtites is that there is no place for a label without covering up part of the coin. >>

The white inserts are softer? Didn't know that!

BillJones · August 27, 2006 1:16AM

<< These things are taylor made for scamming.

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Yes, I agree. It's the type of stuff flea market and low life dealers use to fool the inexperienced.

dorancoins · August 27, 2006 1:18AM

<< 

<< These things are taylor made for scamming.

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Yes, I agree. It's the type of stuff flea market and low life dealers use to fool the inexperienced.

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OK, but what about legit dealers like myself ?

1946Hamm · August 27, 2006 1:24AM

I have used quite a few of them. Both the small ones and the large ones. My collections of 3 cent pieces and shield nickels have several of them. They go well with the certified holders in the Eagle Certified coin pages and binders.
NOTE: Three cent silvers are a real bear to put in these holders.

However, I do not approve of people trying to pass them off as certified slabs. The coinworld globe on each one identifies them anyway.

dorancoins · August 27, 2006 1:25AM

<< I have used quite a few of them. Both the small ones and the large ones. My collections of 3 cent pieces and shield nickels have several of them. They go well with the certified holders in the Eagle Certified coin pages and binders.
NOTE: Three cent silvers are a real bear to put in these holders.

However, I do not approve of people trying to pass them off as certified slabs. The coinworld globe on each one identifies them anyway. >>

Which is better - ANACS-size or PCGS-size?

jmj3esq · August 27, 2006 1:34AM

The inserts that came with mine are dark green. I go them from the Amos coins suply website. The inserts fit into both the old ANACS style holder and the PCGS style holder.

1946Hamm · August 27, 2006 1:34AM

Either one is OK. I had a lot of small size ANACS slabs and went with the smaller ones to keep the size uniform. The larger (premier) ones are the same size as PCGS slabs. I like the larger ones a little better. If you have PCGS slabs then I would go with the large ones. They do make a nice presentation when mixed with TPG slabs.

dorancoins · August 27, 2006 1:48AM

<< Either one is OK. I had a lot of small size ANACS slabs and went with the smaller ones to keep the size uniform. The larger (premier) ones are the same size as PCGS slabs. I like the larger ones a little better. If you have PCGS slabs then I would go with the large ones. They do make a nice presentation when mixed with TPG slabs. >>

I am not a big fan of slabs primarily due to the cost the TPG services charge and that when I see a coin in such slabs that the dealer inflates the price. I have nothing against TPG's because they have experts who can detect counterfeit and altered coins and other services that most dealers would have either limited or no knowledge of.

notwilight · August 27, 2006 2:26AM

<< These things are taylor made for scamming.

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So what? Don't let the prevailing paranoia consume you. Just because there might be a nefarious use for an item doesn't disqualify it for legitimate uses.

Doe these fit in a PCGS box? If so, I might put some of my bodybagged coins in them.

--Jerry

BillJones · August 27, 2006 2:29AM

<< Doe(s) these fit in a PCGS box? >>

I don't think so. I believe that they are too narrow. I think they are more like the old ANACS slabs.

coindeuce · August 27, 2006 3:07AM

I like the PCGS style holders, but I prefer to use the Premire(yes, that is the correct spelling) brand, which is an exact clone of the Coin World holder without the globe icon and "Coin World" embossed on the surface.

notwilight · August 27, 2006 3:32AM

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<< Doe(s) these fit in a PCGS box? >>

I don't think so. I believe that they are too narrow. I think they are more like the old ANACS slabs. >>

I'm sure it is an ancient observation how wonderful it would be if the TPGs could agree on slab edge dimensions...many other industries standardize designs to allow interchange. Oh well. --Jerry

dorancoins · August 27, 2006 8:10AM

<< The inserts that came with mine are dark green. I go them from the Amos coins suply website. The inserts fit into both the old ANACS style holder and the PCGS style holder. >>

Dark Green? I thought it was either black or white.

dorancoins · August 27, 2006 8:11AM

<< I like the PCGS style holders, but I prefer to use the Premire(yes, that is the correct spelling) brand, which is an exact clone of the Coin World holder without the globe icon and "Coin World" embossed on the surface. >>

Where can I get them?

coindeuce · August 27, 2006 8:27AM

The Premire line of PCGS style holders can be purchased wholesale(dealers only) herewww.translinesupply.com
The holders are actually manufactured by Guardhouse, and marketed as Premier holders. They appear to be manufactured in China, which may explain the mis-spelling of Premire(sic) on the packages. All holders of this line use the dark green insert.

dorancoins · August 27, 2006 11:28AM

<< The Premire line of PCGS style holders can be purchased wholesale(dealers only) herewww.translinesupply.com
The holders are actually manufactured by Guardhouse, and marketed as Premier holders. They appear to be manufactured in China, which may explain the mis-spelling of Premire(sic) on the packages. All holders of this line use the dark green insert. >>

I'm familiar with Transline - they're one of my sources for supplies. I do have their catalog. I don't think that the holders are made in PRC China - but, of course, you never know. Are the inserts safe? Have you had any problems with anything like discoloration or anything which may harm the coin? I want to make sure the inserts do not contain PVC.

coindeuce · August 27, 2006 11:35AM

My thinking is that these are the same product as the Coin World holders without the markings. Haven't used the GuardHouse holders long enough to form an opinion about your question, but I do believe that the inserts are inert plastic.

Coin World Coin Holders - Does anyone use them and what do you think?

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