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What Are Your Thoughts On This St. Gaudens Someone Requested Me To Post For Them.

poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317 ✭
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I was contacted via email by someone who had wanted an opinion on the St. Gauden's their mother had purchased quite some time ago. She wanted a second opinion so I offered her the opportunity to see many opinions on her mother's coin by posting it here and giving her a link. She knows what I think about it so I won't post my thoughts until after several opinions have been offered by other board members. Maybe she will consider joining our community here on the boards.

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  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
    Fake
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    Either it's polished or fake, and what's with the crud by her head, is it putty gone bad?
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  • kyleknapkyleknap Posts: 980
    Obvious counterfeit.

    Kyle
  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    Looks counterfeit. Possibly a cleaned counterfeit.
  • hiyosilverhiyosilver Posts: 1,216
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    A bad counterfeit.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    fakeimage
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  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349 ✭
    It looks like the chocolate one I got at the candy store the other day. image

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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    This is what is commonly referred to as a non-deceptive counterfeit.
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  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    I think the point has been made. It is likely that someone took advantage of the owner and it can be chalked up as a lesson learned. I'd suggest to the coins owner is reading the posts to allow your friend who posted this for you to handle your future purchases. You'd be better off.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is what is commonly referred to as a non-deceptive counterfeit. >>



    LOL. John you crack me up.


    "MOM" I hope you didn't spend too much on it. Someone may be interested in purchasing it though. There are people that collect counterfeits.
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is it dark chocolate, or milk chocolate?
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • eagle7eagle7 Posts: 1,441
    Looks like a plated copy to me. And a poor job at that.
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  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508 ✭
    very bad fake

  • Coins101Coins101 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a brass plated slug to me. I am sure it is plated.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This has to be a joke. It looks one of those 3" diameter coasters.

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  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭
    That dislocated neck cannot be good for Miss Liberty.
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • DickyBetzDickyBetz Posts: 3,825
    Plated/Fake.
  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
    Don't you just love those boobs pointing straight at you?image
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Sorryimage
    Becky
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    mmmmmmmmm chocolate!!
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  • WhizzardWhizzard Posts: 955
    Does the reverse say "NOT TWENTY DOLLARS" ?
    What do you think, Mr. Bigglesworth?
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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,720 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember making one of those in metal shop when I was in 8th grade.
  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421 ✭
    Looks like a bad fake.
  • Coins101Coins101 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭


    << <i>She knows what I think about it so I won't post my thoughts until after several opinions have been offered by other board members. >>



    So, want are your thoughts and what was her reponse to what you had to say?
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Miss Liberty is either a wrestler or a baseball player because the crushing grip she is giving that torch has bent it. Have never seen a Saint like this before....and don't expect to ever again either.

    roadrunner
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  • lloydmincylloydmincy Posts: 1,861 ✭
    I cant believe that coin was even posted for an opinion. An oreo cookie is worth more.
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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • NewmismatistNewmismatist Posts: 1,802 ✭✭
    Looks polished for sure - possibly a fake.

    Does it have a chocolate center?image
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  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317 ✭
    I told her that I thought it was a definitely a counterfeit and obviously plated with some gold colored metal. She didn't believe me so I asked if she would like a large number of intelligent opinions. She said yes so I posted it here and provided her a link. I didn't hear a reply back from her since I posted it but I'm sure she's seen this thread.
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  • FletcherFletcher Posts: 3,294 ✭
    Is it filled with chocolate???

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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    My opinion is the coin is a counterfeit, non-gold that has been plated. Note the lack of cartwheel lustre - it's very flat and the devices look polished. Additionally, the dark area to the right of miss liberty looks like some air might have gotten under the plating and bubbled up. The counterfeit is not cast or made from an original, rather a re-engraving. Note the relief is different than a genuine $20, the lettering is different, and the proportions of different parts of the design are not correct.
  • TraderGioTraderGio Posts: 252
    I cannot find this one in David Aker's book: A Handbook of 20th-Century United States Gold Coins 1907-1933. Should I send back the book? How much is 516 grams of chocolate worth?
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
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  • Derek2100Derek2100 Posts: 248
    it needs a dip
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    That is something I will probably see a lot of during my trip to SE Asia. Even I can tell it is fake.
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