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I request the "You Suck" award of 2006... (Superior auction $100 BIN) STORY OVER

kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
Am I a seated bust dollar specialist? By no means. Still, this wasn't a bad deal...

1844 Seated dollar PCGS MS62
"I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SOLD! Thanks for the link!
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why do I get the feeling I am about to read a thread complaining that Superior declined to complete the sale, citing "computer error" or some such.......
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Inferior's Going-Out-Of-Business Sale again?image
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<Why do I get the feeling I am about to read a thread complaining that Superior declined to complete the sale, citing "computer error" or some such....... >>

    You must be psychic or something. image

    Chris
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    My Collection of Old Holders

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    $7.50 for shipping and handling? Rip... They always screw you somewhere. image
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • When you have the coin in hand, you'll recieve your 'You Suck' award. I fought tooth and nail to get Superior to honor a similar sale. They won't budge and ebay won't enforce it cause, like always, they protect their "Power Sellers".
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    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When you have the coin in hand, you'll recieve your 'You Suck' award. I fought tooth and nail to get Superior to honor a similar sale. They won't budge and ebay won't enforce it cause, like always, they protect their "Power Sellers". >>



    Were you part of the Crazy Days $1.00 sale winners? What was the resolution?
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • Nope, I won this the last time they screwed up and had $100 BIN's. The resolution? From both ebay and Superior, "Here's your money back. Screw you and the horse you rode in on." Not an exact quote, but you get the idea. image
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    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • librtyheadlibrtyhead Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,822 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nope, I won this the last time they screwed up and had $100 BIN's. The resolution? From both ebay and Superior, "Here's your money back. Screw you and the horse you rode in on." Not an exact quote, but you get the idea. image >>



    Report them to the SPCA!
    TD
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    << <i>Nope, I won this the last time they screwed up and had $100 BIN's. The resolution? From both ebay and Superior, "Here's your money back. Screw you and the horse you rode in on." Not an exact quote, but you get the idea. image >>



    Report them to the SPCA!
    TD >>



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    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
  • I understand that everyone makes mistakes but they have done this numerous times. Has anyone ever tried to hold their feet to the fire? I'd really be curious to know. If they can get away with this, why can't everyone?
    can't get enough!!!


  • << <i>Has anyone ever tried to hold their feet to the fire? I'd really be curious to know. >>



    Yes, I tried. Got nothing but refunds and ignored by ebay.




    << <i>If they can get away with this, why can't everyone? >>



    Not everyone's a Power Seller.
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    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
  • ILikeMercsILikeMercs Posts: 1,392
    so I won't be seeing this?...............image

    1893-S Morgan
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  • Just do what I did with the '34 S Peace. Print out the picture with the quote "The one that got away...." image
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    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
  • p8ntp8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
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  • DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    Seriously, one of these times they need to own up to stupid mistakes, or Ebay needs to force them too. It's not like it's a single occurence.

    -Daniel
    "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

    -Aristotle

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    -Horace
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    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did ya guys neg them?

    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Seriously, one of these times they need to own up to stupid mistakes, or Ebay needs to force them too. It's not like it's a single occurence.

    -Daniel >>




    Collectors feel that way, dealers stick up for them.
    The first time, I would agree with the dealers. The 2nd time....well, everyone makes mistakes....
    The 5th, 10th, 20th times......they need to get new help, slow down, doublecheck their work, etc........they make too many mistakes for me to want to trust them.
    Who knows what else they are sloppy on?

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    Yeah, the first time, ok. This is now beyond oops. At some point, ebay should say that they can't list again.
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh sure, a software mistake that makes all your auctions $100.00. They should cut of all the worthless glitz in their auctions & tell a little something about the item.
  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,093 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why do I get the feeling I am about to read a thread complaining that Superior declined to complete the sale, citing "computer error" or some such....... >>



    Not Only that, but KIYOTE will be getting a refund and no RIPS........sorry.....image

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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭
    Please tell me they at least have to eat PayPal fees when this happens.
  • sweetwillietsweetwilliet Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭
    Someone did bring up a good point, why not start giving negative feedback on all these auctions, that is if you as buyer can afford the retaliatory neg?
    Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
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  • If you want it, you have my vote !
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmm, here is all I've heard so far...

    Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 05:00:16 -0700
    From: customersupport@buysafe.com
    To: kiyote@wolflink.net
    Subject: Your Recent eBay Auctions Transactions Are Bonded
    Parts/Attachments:
    1 OK 201 lines Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
    2 Shown 312 lines Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
    ----------------------------------------

    buySAFE and Liberty Mutual
    buySAFE and Liberty Mutual Guarantee These Transactions

    Dear kiyote2j19,

    Thank you for your recent eBay purchases of 1844 Liberty Seated $1
    PCGS MS62, 1932-S Washington 25C PCGS MS64 from superior. We're
    sending you this e-mail to let you know that superior has guaranteed
    your purchases with surety bonds from buySAFE and Liberty Mutual, at
    no cost to you. We are legally required to send you this e-mail,
    which contains the details of the bond coverage and additional
    information about this unique guarantee.


    (etc, etc, etc)

    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • I wonder what would happen if someone in CA. bought one of these BIN's for $100 and took them to court, would it stand up?
    Support your local gunslinger, you never know when you'll need him


  • << <i>Did ya guys neg them? >>



    Not yet, but I'm gonna.

    About that BuySafe email, that may be your only line of recourse. You may not see the coin, but you may get the value of the bond out of the deal ($100). My buyers claim with BuySafe is still open and pending.




    << <i>I wonder what would happen if someone in CA. bought one of these BIN's for $100 and took them to court, would it stand up? >>



    I'm no legal expert, but I would imagine it probably would. If I had the time, money and patience I would've pushed legal action.
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    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293
    The chick that types these in must be Really Good!!image
    morgannut2
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder what would happen if someone in CA. bought one of these BIN's for $100 and took them to court, would it stand up? >>



    I'm in CA...
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.


  • << <i>The chick that types these in must be Really Good!!image >>



    Their problem is they use software to relist, not a actual person. You'd think they would've wised up by now.
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    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.


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    << <i>I wonder what would happen if someone in CA. bought one of these BIN's for $100 and took them to court, would it stand up? >>



    I'm in CA... >>



    There you go. Take their ass to court. I'd love to see someone stick it to "Inferior".
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    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,327 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>so I won't be seeing this?...............image

    1893-S Morgan >>



    ...weeehaaa... yeah..I'll believe it when I see it. I seem to remember a similar thread about three months ago.

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  • librtyheadlibrtyhead Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭
    The tooth fairy will leave it under your pillow.


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    << <i>

    << <i>I wonder what would happen if someone in CA. bought one of these BIN's for $100 and took them to court, would it stand up? >>



    I'm in CA... >>



    There you go. Take their ass to court. I'd love to see someone stick it to "Inferior". >>




    Do we have any CA. Lawyers on this board who want to advise or do it themselves?
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    you should send paymenht with postal money order - and get copies, throw away refund - file a fraud mailorder complaint with the postmaster general for non-delivery within 30 days
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>you should send paymenht with postal money order - and get copies, throw away refund - file a fraud mailorder complaint with the postmaster general for non-delivery within 30 days >>



    Keep in mind I don't want Bruno showing up at my door with a baseball bat... I like having legs.. image
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • Where the buyer has reason to believe the seller has made a mistake in its offer, a court in California (or any other state) is extraordinarily unlikely to enforce the contract. Here, the disparity between offer price and actual value is so extreme, any reasonable buyer would know a mistake had been made. Sorry, there's no free lunch. image

    This analysis is the opinion of the poster only and is not intended as legal advice. Anyone who believes they may have a claim against Superior should seek independent legal counsel without delay.
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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    like ACE said, NO SOUP FOR YOU

    but you get a C- for effort
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  • lloydmincylloydmincy Posts: 1,861
    This bothers me. Here you guys complain about the "widow chasers" and fraud, fakes and rip-off artists out there in the coin world, and you want to do the same thing. I think with the computer age, there are bound to be mistakes. You obviously KNOW these are worth way more than the price and it is a mistake.

    And then you want to give them a negative. If you guys were upstanding in any manner, you would call them and tell them it can't be correct, as opposed to trying to steal from them. A "You suck" should be rephrased as a " You're a good crook". Go to your local coin show and try to swipe a coin laying around from an unguarded booth. May have better results.

    I remember a travel glitch not long ago with Travelocity and hotels in Tokyo that were offered at about $10 a night, and many got the reservation. The patrons that quickly got the reservations, were all upset when the hotels and Travelocity stated it was a computer mistake. Most obliged with the reversal of the reservations, and in a simple class act understood it was too-good-to-be-true. But some guy was trying to convince them his reservation was a legit contract, and because he GOT the low (you suck) rates, bought plane tickets for his wife and three kids for the "once in a lifetime" trip, and it would cost his trip too much to have the rooms at the (CORRECT) price. I think the hotel said "ok".

    But they gave into the FREELOADER AMERICAN TRYING TO GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING who knew this was not a correct offering. If I ran the hotel, I would of made sure he did not get the rooms, and make sure he was blackballed from any other interest in my hotel for life. The hotel would have had PLENTY of future patrons, and getting rid of one bad apple would not have effected the chain. Travelocity should have done the same thing.

    Don't respond with "dealers always ripping customers", so it is good to be on the other end, or whatever, because that would just be another way of justifying trying to RIP SOMEONE OFF.

    But hey, I'm not gonna save the world with this post. Just my opinion, and as always, GREED IS STILL GOOD.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Where the buyer has reason to believe the seller has made a mistake in its offer, a court in California (or any other state) is extraordinarily unlikely to enforce the contract. Here, the disparity between offer price and actual value is so extreme, any reasonable buyer would know a mistake had been made. Sorry, there's no free lunch. image

    This analysis is the opinion of the poster only and is not intended as legal advice. Anyone who believes they may have a claim against Superior should seek independent legal counsel without delay. >>




    What about where the seller make the same mistake repeatedly?
    Wouldn't that be like false advertising or something? Like has been said, everyone makes mistakes, but they keep on making the same mispricing mistake over and over and over.......they need a nice slap to wake up and pay attention to what they are doing.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm the guy that bought the Fairtraderz 1961 PR69CAM quarter for $110.00 a few months ago; I said back then what I'll say now; if I had know it was an obvious mistake, I wouldn't be pursuing it. I won't be pursuing this; if they give me my refund I won't leave negative feedback. Hard to believe they're this sloppy, though.

    I'm just hoping that their shipping dept is as automated as their auction generator program. image
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • Well it's certainly poor business practice and probably a big headache for Superior to clean up afterwards, but I fail to see how "buyers" are being harmed such that anyone needs a "slap."
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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just got this reply... I'm shocked! image

    Message From Seller:
    Dear Mr. Orth,


    Here is a refund for your payment. This item was listed in error. It was
    part of our May 29 auction, and because it did not sell at the time, was
    returned to the respective consignor. I apologize for the disappointment.
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.

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